Why do women run away?

[MikeH]

Like - how do they pay for it? Massive burden on tax payer or parents?

[Jon Miller]

Well, until this year Swedish's University system was free to everyone who had ~$10000 in their bank account and got accepted.

I think that many Swedish students took out loans/etc, but that was for living expenses, not tuition.

JM

[MikeH]

So the taxpayer then.

Not against that, I think higher education should be state funded, but not indefinitely. There should be some element of pressure on students to perform well and move into work.

[Jon Miller]

The ~$10000 was for the residence permit, not to be able to go to University.

So for Swedish people it wasn't required.

JM
(They didn't want you to come to Sweden, then starve. The issue with Sweden is that there isn't really any low skill work for people who don't speak Swedish, and there isn't a lot even for people who do.)

[MikeH]

I wasn't talking about that, someone must be funding the universities and the tuition cost and it must be the taxpayer?

[dannubis]

I doubt that "most" people in Norway do master's degrees. And 24-25 is not late 20s

In his defence, in Scandinavia they have a very flexible school system that allows periods of working between the courses you take.

[Nikolai]

In his defence, in Scandinavia they have a very flexible school system that allows periods of working between the courses you take.

As I said, 24-25 is if you follow the education without working. Lots of people take some time off working.

[Nikolai]

Like - how do they pay for it? Massive burden on tax payer or parents?

In Norway you get ~14.000 USD per year if you don't earn more than X per year, in loan. If you don't fail any of your courses, 6.000 USD of those is waivered at the end of the year. If you fail more courses than what equals one year of courses, you loose the benefit of those free money, I'm not sure if you get the whole loan, but I suspect you do. Not a good option though. When you are finished with you education, all has to be repaid of course, but the interest is not bad.

[MikeH]

Cool.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Why wouldn't I just join the Philly PD if I wanted to do that? Why would I go to the city that Sloww lives in? *shudder*

beacuse Texas is the best state to live in!

[dannubis]

and to die in! AMEN !

[Asher]

A bachelor's degree takes 3 years. A master an additional 2. Which means 5 years. And as everybody and his dog has a bachelor these days, you need a master to compete. High school is over the year you become 19. Most people take a year of working or people's high school, which means they are 20 when they begin their higher education. Which means you are finished at earliest at 24, most around 25. Few takes higher education that that. But it's still 25, and there are those who change the course of education a couple of times. Then you have those who after their master finds out they want to be f.ex. teacher. I myself is thinking of the possibility. If so, I need to take pedagogic seminar, which adds another year to the mix. So six years in that case.

This explains why Norway is full of lazy, unambitious people...

Here, you graduate high school when you're 18. A bachelor's degree takes 4 years. You're out at 22.

If you take a masters (which MOST people certainly do not), that's 24.

Your logic makes no sense for "most" people. Even in Norway.

The wait-around-and-do-nothing European approach makes no sense. I've 6 years of professional work experience, and the equivalent salary, before most Norwegians even take their last final exam? Do you know how much of an enormous advantage that is? Look into early-seed investing.

[Asher]

So the taxpayer then.

No, I'm sure it comes from their oil dividends.

[C0ckney]

i thought their oil money went into a giant investment fund for pensions and stuff like that?

[Asher]

"stuff like that" = education?