Swedish election - could it end in violent revolution ?

[Snotty]

That video is racially provocative. if it had been black men racing against the pensioner there would be no discussion about its banning. Will be back to this later as both sides of the resulting discussion interest me

[Meticulous Man]

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[Pekka]

Pekka, in the convoluted language of antiracists, it's first of all given that whities are racist, only whities of the real belief isn't racists. Due to this real belivers aren't racists when they say racist things about whities of the wrong faith

Well, according to some people, a white person can never be a victim of a racist hate crime. Saying this, what I just said, according to those people, would probably make me a racist as well.

It is not the fact that there are racists and racially motivated crimes, but that people, overwhelmingly white by the way, are very aggressive about this race card thing. You see, no one is waving it, except whites in Europe. Yes, sometimes minority groups, say non-white muslims, or immigrants from Africa, complain that they've seen racism. I believe this is true. Yes, definitely there are tons of *******s, shouting at you, making stupid faces, making threats, all kinds of stuff. No doubt these things exist and the people who intimidate these minority groups are *******s and most probably racist.

However, this card is not used in a sense of political power, or social power. In that sense, ONLY whites use it, at least here in Northern Europe. And it is against others, usually non-leftists or non-centrists. This is used as a tool, as a bashing weapon. I find it disgusting for its absolutely stupidity but also because it truly does make people fear. It makes people afraid that some white person is going to label them as a racist. Now you are free to be beaten, harrassed, everything goes. You are worse than human, you are non-human nazi **** and you deserve everything bad.

Of course this forced tolerance does not work. You see, it is not the immigrants, non-whites, non-christians who really do this. Not at all. They are not the dangerous element if there is one. They have no say. They have no power. But the people who claim to be their "friends" in the politics, they have power. They just use these people as their pawns, as a bashing tool, so they can shut up their opposition. It is disgusting because it has NOTHING to do with racism (believing that some race is better than other), and now everything is racist, and it might have passed a point of no return already, this whole ordeal.

It is not foreigners that do this. There is no other bashing tool that you can use freely and get away with it. You can call anyone a racist, and then attack them. You can actually assault them. After all you did the right thing. But call them anything else first and you will fail; Christian, Muslim, Bastard, Gay, White, Black, Student, Man, Woman, Unemployed, Swede, Football player, Damned Right Winger, Left Winger... but call them a Racist. Now that works.

And it is because of this that racism DOES grow. People do get fed up with the wrong labeling. They get fed up being afraid. They might feel some people are more privileged than others. Kind of like Rich and Poor. But they look at the wrong people to blame, they might look at the immigrants, when they should be looking at their own people. It's all ****ed up already. Not because of people moving in, but because of some idiot white Christian bastards using the racism card ALL WRONG, abusing it, and then some other ****s getting into it and actually believing in it.

I wonder how victims of the holocaust, mass murder etc. feel about the nazi card. I think they who have seen it saw something a bit different and would mind the comparison. There's a group of people who are sexually aroused by the opportunity to slay down the next rising nazis. They see it everywhere, and they are ready to destroy them. They are disappointed, like a teenager with a raging boner, and there's no vagina around. So they just settle with something less and think it's a vagina. Now, everyone is ****ing a tree hole and the tree's are innocent.

[a.kitman]

ugh this got nothing to do whit the race card. no one in this thread have called SD racist, no one is trying to hide behind some imaginary card.

white guys crying about the race card is pathetic.

[Meticulous Man]

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[Kitschum]

Well, I admit that I might have been a bit provocative, but given in mild doses, it gives interesting answers - hope youre not that angry

Naw I can't stay mad at you.

And you certainly have done a good job. There are usually no problem in defending something that you agree with, while doing the opposite is pretty difficult. Though, wich one do you consider most educating/entertaining/giving ?

It's educational either way. Arguing for something you don't believe in might be considered trolling and that can be giving when you're in that kind of mood.

But I don't really feel as if I was arguing for anyone else. I was trying to convey some understanding into what they are beyond partisan rhetoric, but I don't want it to be seen as I'm making excuses either, and that's not an easy balancing act.

I think this says everything one should know about SD.

Obviously. They thrive on that kind of attention as it lands them sympathy votes.

[Kitschum]

It seems the Swedish Left still has a monopoly on musical talent.

Sure the song's pretty dumb and verges on parody in places (the part about Nyamko Sabuni made me cringe) but by the end of seven minutes I wanted to listen to it again.

[Meticulous Man]

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[BlackCat]

Personally I'm going to vote for someone who spends a maximum of 0.001 percent of their time pondering about immigration issues.

Sure, sticking the fingers in the ears and screaming "lalala" solves all problems

Just out of curiosity, do you use this method on all of your problems ?

[a.kitman]

since there are people in this thread that believe SD is the one and only saviour for sweden i would like you to explain there integration politic to me. cus other then "no more brown people may enter" i havent heard anything about it. this question goes to nikolai in perticular as he clearly stated they where our only party looking to solve our apperent problems.

[Nikolai]

They are the only party that admits there is a problem. If you don't admit there is a problem, you can't do much with it, can you?

[a.kitman]

so what is there solution then?

[Nikolai]

The solution is not one single, easy one of course. I don't have the full answer. But let me say this: I welcome people into Norway, as should Sweden. But there is some requirements that need to be met.

Firstly, not everybody can come in, both Norway and Sweden is too small for that. One should focus on those in real need, people fleeing from oppression. And also on people with skills which the country needs. Much like what the US has done for a long time. Too many is coming in, and as a result they don't get integrated into the society.

Secondly, those who come has to be met with demands. Learn the language, integrate, do something with your life instead of just getting free money from the government. Those who do this might be in a minority, but they are a big minority. If the mothers f.ex. don't know Swedish and the kids don't go in kindergarden, the kids will not know Swedish when they begin school. Then they fall behind in just about everything and becomes easy targets for crime gangs, extremists etc. This cycle needs to be killed at the start. In Norway we have this problem, and in Sweden you have this problem.

Thirdly, just as those immigrants who do a good job and contribute positively, needs to get a clap on the shoulder for that, the ones who rape, kills or steals or whatever, needs to know there is consequences that they can't escape, the media and public often looks for faults in the "white", "original" populace. This encourages rather than discurages. And it alienates the ones the society needs to have on their side to get this immigration project to work: the regular Swedes and hard working immigrants among us. This also means that the media needs to stop hiding the culprits' ethnical origin. Doing so ultimately helps the problem get worse, by feeding the worst in the voters. SD might not be the best party around, but they are the only ones who admits we have a problem. As long as they are the only ones, dissatisfied voters WILL come to them, no matter how "brown" the baggage they carries is.