Is anyone here unfortunate enough to be an Asian American?

[Heraclitus]

Talking about East Asians of course.



http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2010/06/...ates-2007.html

Must be tought living in a country that treats you this unfairly just based on your race when it comes to College admission.

Heck, the high IQ Jews can just pass as regular gentile whites so no one will punish them for their high IQ. Indians can always put down Caucasian too.

[SlowwHand]

You really insist on showing your ass, don't you?

[OzzyKP]

Wow those are pretty shocking differences.

[Asher]

Edit: n/m, didn't read

[Asher]

One of the comments is enlightening somewhat:

I'm curious why you chose the numbers you did. You exclude many buckets (the top-scoring/graded students, for example).

I would have chosen the totals. For example, 47.1% of the 78,492 white students were accepted where 39.3% of the 10,147 black students were accepted. But, perhaps that didn't match your narrative?

There are a trivial number of black students compared to white students who even apply, much less get accepted. Look at the data you linked to. There are 725 white applicants in the top-test/top-GPA slot and 5 (FIVE) in the top slot for blacks.

Comparing percentages for hand-picked buckets in such a skewed case will result in very strange results.

[Heraclitus]

I made no comment about Blacks. Only East Asians. Only a handfull of Blacks would ever be in the top scoring slot this is plain as day so I never touched the subject. However a greater % of East Asians should be top scoring compared to Whites. The fact whites have higher admision rate clearly demonstrates bias against East Asians.

[SlowwHand]

It's because it's graded on a curve. Asian eyes have less curve.

[Heraclitus]

How clever.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Ahahahahahahaha like Asian students would score less than 3.6. Yeah, right.

[VetLegion]

Don't understand the point of the table... how exactly does it show discrimination?
One possible explanation is that all Asians apply to higher education while only some blacks (and those most apt too) do. There are other possible explanations,
of course. You can't claim Asians are discriminated just based on those figures.
There can be a lot of self-selection going on.

[Heraclitus]

Don't understand the point of the table... how exactly does it show discrimination?
One possible explanation is that all Asians apply to higher education while only some blacks (and those most apt too) do. There are other possible explanations,
of course. You can't claim Asians are discriminated just based on those figures.
There can be a lot of self-selection going on.

Look at the first two lines of the table and think about what they mean.

[Al B. Sure!]

What about intangibles? Although I doubt medical schools care about that in applicants, law and business schools definitely consider other things besides grades and test scores.

[Asher]

Such as ethnicity?

[Al B. Sure!]

jobs the applicant had, participation in extracurricular activities, the essay, experiences, etc. etc.

[VetLegion]

Look at the first two lines of the table and think about what they mean.

I admit I had no idea what MCAP is. According to wikipedia:

There is no penalty for incorrect multiple choice answers, thus even random guessing is preferable to leaving an answer choice blank (unlike many other standardized tests). Students preparing for the exam are encouraged to try to balance their subscores; physical, verbal, and biological scores of 12, 13, and 11 respectively may be looked upon more favorably than 14, 13, and 9, even though both amount to the same composite score.

Bolding mine. Perhaps Asians arrive at the final score with unbalanced component
scores. Perhaps they score low on verbal (being recent immigrants?) and make up
for it on physical or something like that.

If not, if the table is correct and MCAP/GPA is the only criteria for approving applications,
then I'd agree that there's something fishy going on.

Hopefully, doctors in the US are not selected on basis of "extracurricular activities"
or "essays".