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    Originally posted by BBC
    Vatican 'indignant' over Belgium police raids

    Page last updated at 16:06 GMT, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:06 UK

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    A police officer outside the Archdiocese of Mechelen on 24 June 2010 Prosecutors said the raids were over alleged clerical abuse of minors

    The Vatican has expressed shock at raids, including the "violation" of a cathedral crypt, by Belgian police investigating alleged child sex abuse.

    As well as searching a couple of main Church offices and a cardinal's home, police had drilled holes in two archbishops' tombs, said the Church.

    Prosecutors said the raids were over alleged "abuse of minors committed by a certain number of Church figures".

    Belgium is one of many countries where the Church has been hit by sex scandal.

    In April, the Bishop of Bruges, Roger Vangheluwe, resigned after admitting he had sexually abused a boy more than 20 years ago.
    'Da Vinci Code'

    The Vatican has summoned the Belgian ambassador to the Holy See to voice anger over Thursday's raids.

    Police in Leuven seized nearly 500 files and a computer from the offices of a Church commission investigating allegations of sex abuse.
    Continue reading the main story Archbishop Andre-Joseph Leonard at a news conference in Brussels on 25 June 2010

    We are surprised it went as far as drilling into tombs

    Archbishop Andre-Joseph Leonard Leader of the Church in Belgium

    They also searched the Church's headquarters, the Brussels archdiocese in Mechelen, north of the Belgian capital.

    Bishops holding a meeting there were barred from leaving the premises for several hours and had their mobile phones confiscated, said Church officials.

    Investigators made holes in the tombs of two former Belgian primates at Mechelen cathedral, and sent down cameras in search of hidden documents, without success, said a Church spokesman.

    In a statement, the Vatican expressed "shock over how the searches were carried out by Belgian judicial authorities and indignation over the violation of the graves of the Cardinals Jozef-Ernest Van Roey and Leon-Joseph Suenens," reports AFP news agency.

    The raids had been the stuff of "crime novels and The Da Vinci Code", said the Church's leader in Belgium, Archbishop Andre-Joseph Leonard.

    "We are surprised it went as far as drilling into tombs in the cathedral," he told a news conference in Brussels on Friday.

    A spokesman for the Belgian prosecutor in the Belgian capital told news agency Reuters that investigators partially opened one tomb in the cathedral after someone mentioned work had recently been carried out on the grave.

    Officers also raided the nearby home of the recently retired Archbishop of Belgium, Cardinal Godfried Danneels.

    He was not interrogated but a personal computer and some paperwork was confiscated.

    The Vatican said the raids had led to the "violation of confidentiality of precisely those victims for whom the raids were carried out".

    The Catholic Church in Belgium has apologised for its silence on abuse cases in the past and Archbishop Leonard has promised a policy of zero tolerance.
    ****ing retards...
    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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    Huh? How is it shooting itself in the foot? The Belgians appear to be acting like dicks.
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    • #3
      Why on earth would they search graves?
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      • #4
        I think this could have been done a lot better by the Belgians.
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        • #5
          As well as searching a couple of main Church offices and a cardinal's home, police had drilled holes in two archbishops' tombs, said the Church.
          WTF?

          Desecrating the dead?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
            Why on earth would they search graves?
            I am just as outraged by the corruption and cruel indifference of the Vatican as most people here.

            But yes, out of curiosity, I have to ask the same question, Ozzy.
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            • #7
              Seriously, what were they expecting to find in the graves?!
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              • #8
                Yeah, I need to hide incriminating evidence. Quick let's hide it in a tomb.


                Except for the tomb crap, I don't have a problem with the rest of it.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                  Seriously, what were they expecting to find in the graves?!
                  They're hiding dead people, obviously. Very incriminating.
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                  • #10


                    A spokesman for the Belgian prosecutor in the Belgian capital told news agency Reuters that investigators partially opened one tomb in the cathedral after someone mentioned work had recently been carried out on the grave.
                    I guess that you can expect anything from papal agents
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                    • #11
                      common sense would tell me that maybe destroying something might be better than hiding it in a tomb.
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                      • #12
                        Criminals aren't usually the smartest guys

                        Besides, the church has a tendency to keep all records - good or bad.
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                        • #13
                          Maybe they wanted to catch a priest in the act of having sex with a minor inside a tomb or grave.
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                          • #14
                            This could be a grave error of judgment on somebody's part - maybe they were following a cryptic clue...?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanS View Post
                              I think this could have been done a lot better by the Belgians.
                              I don't know what went through the investigators minds when they planned the searchings. More serious than the drillings, though rather distasteful, is the seizure of the files of a commission that was investigating the abuses in the Church. The files contained testimonies victims gave in strict confidentiality, which has been violated with the searchings, and the commission itself has now effectively ceased working (they were due to publish their findings in a few months).

                              If it was a ploy to make the Church look sympathetic, it certainly worked.
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