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    from the bbc

    VAT is to rise from 17.5% to 20% in January after George Osborne unveiled the biggest package of tax increases and spending cuts in a generation.

    He said his "tough but fair" Budget was "unavoidable" although he told MPs in the Commons there would be no extra tax on alcohol, tobacco and fuel.

    Child benefit will be frozen for three years, public sector pay frozen and 25% cut from government department budgets.

    Labour said the Budget was "reckless" and would "throw people out of work".

    Acting Labour leader Harriet Harman said it would stifle growth and hit hardest "those who can least afford it".

    But Mr Osborne laid the blame for the state of the nation's finances squarely at the door of the previous Labour government, saying: "The years of debt and spending make this unavoidable."

    'Progressive budget'
    He promised to balance Britain's books within five years - faster than Labour was planning, with the bulk of the savings to come from cuts to benefits and public services rather than tax increases.

    He said action was needed to prevent a "catastrophic collapse" in economic confidence but stressed it would be done in a "fair" way with the better-off shouldering most of the burden.

    "Everyone will pay something but the people at the bottom of the income scale will pay proportionately less than those at the top. This is a progressive Budget," he said to jeers from Labour MPs.

    Tax credits will be cut for families earning more than £40,000 a year - and there will be a two year pay freeze for public servants paid more than £21,000, with those earning less all getting a £250 rise.

    Mr Osborne also heralded swingeing cuts in public services by announcing departmental budgets - except health and foreign aid which are ringenced - which will see real terms reductions in their budgets of 25% over four years.

    The full detail will not be revealed until Wednesday 20 October, when Mr Osborne publishes his spending review.

    In addition to the VAT increase, which Mr Osborne said would raise £13bn a year, capital gains tax will be increased to 28% for top rate taxpayers - less than the 50% some Conservative backbenchers had feared.

    And he ended his speech with a pledge to link pensions to earnings - or prices or 2.5% if they are higher.

    In other moves, housing benefit will be reformed with a maximum limit of £400 a week, in a package saving £1.8bn a year by the end of the Parliament.

    Other benefits to be cut include the health in pregnancy grant while the Sure Start maternity grant will be restricted to the first child only and lone parents will be expected to look for work when their youngest child goes to school.

    Bank levy
    But there will be an extra £150 a year for the poorest families, through changes to family tax credits to ensure, Mr Osborne said, child poverty reduction targets would be met.

    The government is also to introduce a medical assessment for Disability Living Allowance from 2013 for new and existing claimants.

    Mr Osborne also announced plans to help the low paid by raising personal tax allowances, taking an estimated 880,000 people out of the tax system and give millions of basic rate taxpayers a tax cut of £200 per year.

    From January 2011, the Government will introduce a bank levy, which will apply to the balance sheets of UK banks and building societies and the UK operations of foreign banks. Mr Osborne said the move would raise £2bn a year once it was fully in place.

    Mr Osborne said public sector workers paid more than £21,000 a year would have a two year pay freeze with those paid less getting a flat pay increase of £250 for the next two years.

    The plan is the first step towards a key Liberal Democrat coalition demand of taking all those earning less than £10,000 out of tax.

    'Enterprise-led recovery'
    The chancellor must find £3.5bn to pay for the giveaway - which will be clawed back from top rate taxpayers - and Labour are likely to argue it is irresponsible in the current climate.

    Mr Osborne also froze the Civil List payments to the Royal Family at £7.9m a year and said in future years they would be subject to scrutiny by the National Audit Office.

    He stressed that the pain of his austerity measures would be shared by "everyone" - but said all would share in the proceeds of the "enterprise-led recovery" that he promised would follow.

    "Yes it is tough, but it also fair," said Mr Osborne of his first budget, adding: "Everyone will share in the rewards when we succeed. When we say that we are all in this together, we mean it."

    He said that the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) now estimated growth this year of 1.2% and 2.3% next year - compared to its previous forecasts of 1.3% of 2.6%.

    Giving her response to Mr Osborne's statement, acting Labour leader Harriet Harman poured scorn on the Liberal Democrats for providing a "fig leaf" for their Conservative coaltion partners, arguing "this reckless Tory budget would not be possible without the Lib Dems".

    "How could they let the Tories so exploit them?," she said, adding: "The Lib Dems leaders have sacrificed everything they ever stood for to ride in ministerial cars and to ride on the coat tails of the Tory government."

    In a message last night to Liberal Democrat supporters, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg made clear that his party was fully signed up to the coalition's economic strategy.

    He rejected accusations that he had "sold out" to the Conservatives, insisting that the Budget would bear "the stamp of our Liberal Democrat values".
    some good stuff in there, taking people out of tax and reforming things like housing benefit will make working more attractive. it's about time tax credits for the middle classes were cut back as well.

    the cuts look pretty savage though. 25% for all departments except health and international development. i don't see why education should take a massive cut and health be protected, just another example of the young being sacrificed for the old, i suppose.
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  • #2
    It has to happen. Anyone going around saying "OMG IT HURTS POOR PEOPLE HARDER" are just pandering to those who don't want to admit that their country can't actually survive whilst requiring others to pay for their lives.

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    • #3
      2.5% increase on the price of everything does hit the poorest the hardest
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      • #4
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          It has to happen. Anyone going around saying "OMG IT HURTS POOR PEOPLE HARDER" are just pandering to those who don't want to admit that their country can't actually survive whilst requiring others to pay for their lives.

          Political courage

          Pandering

          Oh **** off Little Lord Fauntleroy. You need a good, educational period spent unemployed and in poverty.
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          • #6
            Child benefit will be frozen for three years, public sector pay frozen and 25% cut from government department budgets.
            Cut public sector pay 50 percent, Government department budgets 50 percent in a year, and you'll close the deficit. Austerity? Hah. You aren't even cutting government sector pay at all.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              Cut public sector pay 50 percent, Government department budgets 50 percent in a year, and you'll close the deficit. Austerity? Hah. You aren't even cutting government sector pay at all.
              In Morpeth, Northumberland, people were left reeling.

              More than half of the population relies on the state for jobs - the highest percentage of public sector workers in the UK.

              Civic leaders said the community had been 'caned' by the emergency Budget, which slashed public spending.

              Independent analysts from the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) estimate that as many as 12,000 out of the 23,000 people living in the Castle Morpeth borough - 52.6 per cent - are employed in the public sector.

              The number of workers in local authorities, the police service, hospitals, universities, schools and courts now far outweighs the area's private sector.

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              • #8
                20% VAT?

                Jesus ****ing Christ, what a ****hole of a country.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Snotty View Post
                  In Morpeth, Northumberland, people were left reeling.

                  More than half of the population relies on the state for jobs - the highest percentage of public sector workers in the UK.

                  Civic leaders said the community had been 'caned' by the emergency Budget, which slashed public spending.

                  Independent analysts from the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) estimate that as many as 12,000 out of the 23,000 people living in the Castle Morpeth borough - 52.6 per cent - are employed in the public sector.

                  The number of workers in local authorities, the police service, hospitals, universities, schools and courts now far outweighs the area's private sector.

                  I could be wrong but I don't think this qualifies as a good thing and is possibly an indicator that Asher is right and the country actually is a ****hole.
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                  • #10
                    I went to university in the north (Durham, which isn't a bad university if you want to spend 3 years drunk).

                    I can confirm it is a ****hole though. Some parts of it need nuking,or at the very least fencing off and turned into prisons.
                    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                      from the bbc



                      some good stuff in there, taking people out of tax and reforming things like housing benefit will make working more attractive. it's about time tax credits for the middle classes were cut back as well.

                      the cuts look pretty savage though. 25% for all departments except health and international development. i don't see why education should take a massive cut and health be protected, just another example of the young being sacrificed for the old, i suppose.
                      It's one of the reasons I won't take a job that pays well that I don't like doing.
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                      • #12
                        Does Obama complain about this too?
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                        • #13
                          Obama probably calls VAT "British VAT."
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                          • #14
                            Re Kraut spending cuts he complains (so it's reported) they hindering the recovery of everything. I wonder if we can put some of the blame on the UK now
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Asher View Post
                              20% VAT?

                              Jesus ****ing Christ, what a ****hole of a country.
                              I did not see the 20% mark. Yeah that's ridiculous.

                              However the social welfare programs are just going to have to get cut. Yes it sucks for some people but something has to go, for christ's sake. It doesn't actually matter WHAT they try to cut. Someone is going to ***** and moan about it.
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