What does modern Israel have in common with 1950's Alabama?

[DaShi]

I think Az probably gives a better view given that he (if his profile is to be believed) is actually Israeli.

That only means he is biased.

[Kuciwalker]

I think Az probably gives a better view given that he (if his profile is to be believed) is actually Israeli.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimator

he has lower variance but higher bias

[Al B. Sure!]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimator

he has lower variance but higher bias

Wow

[Az]

actually, I think your brother is right.

DaShi said that the DL guy present Israelis' view accurately.
I am actually Israeli, so my posts more reflect Israelis views on the subject...

well i am in total agreement with you that hamas ought to recognise israel and renounce violence and start to work towards a peaceful future. it begs the question, with the the situation as bad as it is in gaza why aren't they doing this? well, rather obviously, it's because the blockade is not hurting them, it is hurting the ordinary people of gaza, which the point i've been trying to make. it's a collective punishment of 1.5 million people for the actions of a few. it's both inhumane and counterproductive.

I'll spill you the beans on the blockade. It's very simple - All of this is meaningless. There is a single geopolitical game played in the ME for us - and this is against Iran. The Israeli government already experiences what does an unhindered (in terms of arms supplies) hostile government on our borders means. it's Lebanon and Hizbullah. The Almighty UNSC resolution on Lebanon which promised the disarmament of militias in Lebanon became a laughing stock. Hizbullah has more rocket artillery than most governments. It's probably the only non-state player in the whole world that has ballistic missiles.

Israel doesn't want a repeat of this scenario in Gaza. That is all. This is the true reason for the blockade.

Israel doesn't really mind Hamas controlling Gaza. The Palestinian disunity is great for Israel, since it allows freedom in terms of timetables, and Israel would actually benefit greatly from a separate palestinian state in the west bank only.

You know who else hates the Iraninan government? the Egyptian government.
A joint Israeli-Egyptian blockade is the only way to enforce it. That's why it's done and agreed upon.

That is all.

[Hauldren Collider]

I stand corrected.
An excellent analysis thank you, Az

[Wezil]

What significant country invites or allows external investigations of controversial events?

An event that occurred in international waters where foreign nationals were killed and virtually the entire world is screaming for an accounting?

It's hard to think of another example.

Israel can't claim they did nothing wrong but then insist no one else can see the evidence. Doesn't fly.

[MOBIUS]

Hi, new poster. Get out.

you've actiually managed to post worse than mobius in an I/P thread, which is saying a lot.

As Dashi says, he's merely lifting the mask on what your average Israeli in the street thinks...

I bet you think the same things too - you're just smart enough to hide it.

[C0ckney]

that's very interesting az, certainly.

i do wonder though, where do the civilians of gaza fit into this geopolitical game? also, what do you think about it all?

[ricketyclik]

As Dashi says, he's merely lifting the mask on what your average Israeli in the street thinks...

I bet you think the same things too - you're just smart enough to hide it.

That's pretty unfair isn't it? That's like saying you have the same beliefs as the Welsh Nazi Party.

[ricketyclik]

i do wonder though, where do the civilians of gaza fit into this geopolitical game?

+1

[BlackCat]

That's pretty unfair isn't it? That's like saying you have the same beliefs as the Welsh Nazi Party.

Uhmn, that is actually unfair to the welsh nazi party - they are pretty reasonible compared to Mobby

[Hauldren Collider]

BlackCat beat me to it.

[Zevico]

There is a difference between asserting:
1) That intermarriage is "wrong", in the moral sense. It may be true that half of Israelis think intermarriage is wrong. [Edit: As an Australian who is a secular person of Jewish upbringing, I personally do not think that intermarriage is wrong]
2) That intermarriage is illegal. The current status quo is that intermarriage is legal, but has to be undergone outside of Israel to be recognised. If you're a foreign citizen, marrying in your embassy is enough. If not then the most popular destination is apparently Cyprus. It's a ridiculous status quo, but there you have it.
3) That intermarriage is illegal and criminal.It is nonsense to say that half of Israelis think it should be criminal, let alone "treason" in the sense suggested by the results of this misleading poll.

Lastly, asserting that there are "vigilante" groups in Israel is ridiculous. This implies that they are taking women without their consent or otherwise breaking the law, such as by kidnapping these women. It's a great slander, but there's nothing to show for it.

[BlackCat]

BlackCat beat me to it.

Don't ever do that again

I might prefer to agree with mobby to avoid such ever happen another time

[Berzerker]

Helen Thomas has been fired for telling the Jews to get out of Dodge