Ships to Gaza incident

[C0ckney]

i think he trying to say why didn't they wait until it was in israeli waters before boarding the vessel. which is a very good question (and one i asked earlier).

[Dinner]

What I don't understand is why Israel doesn't prepare better for such situations, esp. if they expected it to be a "provocation" as one politician said. Why not use non-lethal force, taser, rubber-bullets?

Jesus Christ, man. What do you expect them to do? Walk on water? How else do you stop a ship full of crazied fanatics except to board it? Then when faced with 600 armed and hostile fanatics what are two dozen commandos to do except use deadly force?

[Dinner]

Cite? Under what authority were they acting?

You mean like the lawful orders not to land without customs inspection? That sort of ignoring lawful order? The reality is Israel allows humanitarian shipments to Gaza but the blood sucking muslims insist on sending shipments of arms to the terrorist occupied region of Gaza, illegally, and if the shipment really only had humanitarian goods then it would be allowed through. The whole point, the only point, of trying to avoid legal customs is because these terrorist sponsors wanted to illegally ship arms.

Actually, I take take back. They also want to score propaganda points to claim that Jews are evil monsters. This, of course, is besides the point that the main goal was to support terrorist organizations and so these **** bags should all be shot. I would be quite happy to see them all hanged. It would be a fine day for civilization.

[Dinner]

This.

When Somalis board boats in international waters we call it "piracy".

Except it wasn't in "international waters", you dullard. It was in internationally recognized Israeli waters!

[Al B. Sure!]

Sirotnikov? What the heck? I guess he came back just knowing that Apolyton would be talking about this.

[MOBIUS]

Defend them how you like Oerdin, these days the world can't be fooled by Israeli state sponsored terrorism.

[MOBIUS]

Sirotnikov? What the heck? I guess he came back just knowing that Apolyton would be talking about this.

His Israeli handlers activated him to fool gullible morons like Oerdin into believing that the Israelis are the wronged party in all this...

Apparently the ships were 48" into Israeli waters when they struck.

[Dinner]

Did the Navy board Soviet vessels during the Cuban Missile Crisis?

The USN used force to prevent Soviet merchants from getting to Cuba.

Technically incorrect. The Soviet ships were told they would be sunk or captured if they continued on course. It had not resulted in actual force before the Soviet ships changed course. There is no doubt the US ships would have enforced the naval blockage but the Soviets chickened out before trying it.

[Al B. Sure!]

That video he has on his youtube account is pretty crazy. Those IDF soldiers did the right thing considering.

[Dinner]

Defend them how you like Oerdin, these days the world can't be fooled by Israeli state sponsored terrorism.

Jesus Christ, you're supporting Hamas which even your own government calls an international terrorist organization! I've simply pointed out the true to life facts of the situation which completely exonerate Israel and then you whine like a stuck pig.

[Asher]

New avatar for Siro:

[MOBIUS]

Jesus Christ, you're supporting Hamas which even your own government calls an international terrorist organization! I've simply pointed out the true to life facts of the situation which completely exonerate Israel and then you whine like a stuck pig.

I'm not supporting Hamas you insufferable dick! You're sounding more retarded than Ben with a hysterical statement like that...

[Asher]

Jesus Christ, you're supporting Hamas which even your own government calls an international terrorist organization! I've simply pointed out the true to life facts of the situation which completely exonerate Israel and then you whine like a stuck pig.

You've carefully avoided the point that they were not in Israel's territorial waters, as far as I can see. The fact that they were in the economic zone doesn't mean they can board other ships using your logic that they were in Israeli waters.

Seems now the argument is it WAS in international waters, but this is fine because Israel arbitrarily decided it was a blockade which means they could attack it under some 1994 non-binding treaty, even then they appear not to have fully abided by it.

[MOBIUS]

Not to mention the fact that Israel doesn't even recognise international law anyway...

[Dinner]

They were in Israeli's Exclusive Economic Zone where Israeli law applies. International waters do not begin until after 200 miles. Israeli had every right to enforce its law especially since the ship in question publicly stated their intent to land illegally (probably with arms and munitions). After all, if they didn't wave arms then why not use the regular channels for shipping humanitarian goods? Let's face it, the Palestinians are rats who lie constantly and their supporters are proven arms smugglers. If the goal really was just to ship humanitarian good then the Israeli government provides plenty of opportunity to do so. The only reason for this lawless act was to try to prevent the Israeli government from searching the shipment for arms. Humanitarian supplies get through every day.

Personally, I would have just declared them hostile the second they became violent and then sank the ship with all aboard. It would have been perfectly legal. The survivors could make a statement just before their hanging. The best that can be said about this ship is they were attempting to pave the way for Muslim terrorist arms smugglers. They should all be hanged. The sooner the better.