Trust me...

[KrazyHorse]

Well, my advice is not to take their advice.

Finance degrees suck.

[Al B. Sure!]

Well that was years ago now. haha

[Darius871]

True. I probably wouldn't have posted it if I hadn't wanted to make Darius feel better.

That supposes I'm glum enough to need cheering up; you're looking at a guy who planned to go into the Army straight out of college and just thought he'd get law school over with and wouldn't mind joining up now as a last resort, albeit with a more law-oriented MOS (e.g. JAG support, MP investigations, procurements, etc.) and/or perhaps a more professional-oriented branch (e.g. Chair Farce, Navy, etc.). For someone that A) sets the bar as low as me, B) has no mouths to feed, and C) would innately despise almost every aspect of corporate law even if such a gig happened to drop into his lap, there's nothing to worry about.

[Flubber]

would innately despise almost every aspect of corporate law even if such a gig happened to drop into his lap,

hmmmm- It appears you would despise everything pertaining to my professional existence ... I can contemplate all sorts of reasons why someone might not choose to work as an in-house corporate lawyer but I was curious as to yours. Do you mind sharing your thoughts as I am curious.



Overall though I am happy that you face no immediate job need and given thetypes of things you say you seek, it should not be TOO difficult to find something that meets your criteria

[Darius871]

hmmmm- It appears you would despise everything pertaining to my professional existence ... I can contemplate all sorts of reasons why someone might not choose to work as an in-house corporate lawyer but I was curious as to yours. Do you mind sharing your thoughts as I am curious.

I was halfway facetious of course, but I suppose the short version is that 1) having been dealt a relatively fortunate hand in life instilled a firm commitment to give something back in the way of public service and not waste my gifts on personal profit (sort of a Charlie-Sheen's-character-in-Platoon kind of thing), 2) more innately I'd just derive a great deal of motivation from the feeling of ending a day knowing I had contributed in some small way to some cause greater than myself, whether it be investigating or prosecuting those who brutalize or exploit the vulnerable, assuring indigents' right to an adversarial defense against restraint of their liberty, vaporizing terr'ists, etc. etc. etc., 3) substantively speaking, legal issues in the civil realm just plain don't turn my crank as much as ones dealing with liberty, life, and limb, and 4) I'd get further motivation from the sense of camraderie that comes with spending the day with coworkers who share the same motivations.

Ripping myself to shreds at a private firm or as in-house counsel only so that some dentist in Omaha can see his stock dividends rise a fraction of a percent just wouldn't tend to scratch any of these itches, so I'd steer clear if I had a choice. That being said, I'd have no problem being a hired gun for anyone if I exhaust my alternatives and just need to pay the bills. I also don't hold any judgments against the guys who do it because in most cases they actually have families to take care of, which is every bit as altruistic a motivation as mine are. If the girl of my dreams just happened to drop out of the sky today, of course the equation would change.

[KrazyHorse]

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190958

[Kuciwalker]

Yeah, if you could make enough money that you'd pay your own public sector salary in taxes, doing THAT is actually a better form of "giving back".

[Asher]

I was halfway facetious of course, but I suppose the short version is that 1) having been dealt a relatively fortunate hand in life instilled a firm commitment to give something back in the way of public service and not waste my gifts on personal profit (sort of a Charlie-Sheen's-character-in-Platoon kind of thing), 2) more innately I'd just derive a great deal of motivation from the feeling of ending a day knowing I had contributed in some small way to some cause greater than myself, whether it be investigating or prosecuting those who brutalize or exploit the vulnerable, assuring indigents' right to an adversarial defense against restraint of their liberty, vaporizing terr'ists, etc. etc. etc., 3) substantively speaking, legal issues in the civil realm just plain don't turn my crank as much as ones dealing with liberty, life, and limb, and 4) I'd get further motivation from the sense of camraderie that comes with spending the day with coworkers who share the same motivations.

Ripping myself to shreds at a private firm or as in-house counsel only so that some dentist in Omaha can see his stock dividends rise a fraction of a percent just wouldn't tend to scratch any of these itches, so I'd steer clear if I had a choice. That being said, I'd have no problem being a hired gun for anyone if I exhaust my alternatives and just need to pay the bills. I also don't hold any judgments against the guys who do it because in most cases they actually have families to take care of, which is every bit as altruistic a motivation as mine are. If the girl of my dreams just happened to drop out of the sky today, of course the equation would change.

Frankly, the biggest difference you could make in this world is to become an oilpatch lawyer like Flubber.

The pay is insane, and the ramifications huge. It's with his hard work that we are productively and lucratively raping mother earth and murdering migrating birds. You can't make a big of a difference in the world by doing small-time cases.

[Asher]

Plus I hear BP is looking for some good lawyers.

[Darius871]

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190958

I don't recall denying that I'm being entirely selfish. I was just describing why my selfish ass would derive more net personal enjoyment from X than from Y.

Yeah, if you could make enough money that you'd pay your own public sector salary in taxes, doing THAT is actually a better form of "giving back".

This I would disagree with, however, because there are oodles of starving lawyers out there that would gladly take that job and pay the very same taxes in any event, so my going there in their stead creates no net benefit to tax revenues; nor does taking a public sector job that some starving lawyer would fill in my stead in any event produce a net drain to the budget. But then again I ain't no economician.

[Solomwi]

I forgot to tell you, Darius: if your bar review class has a live lecture room and a video room, like mine did, choose the video room as a habit. It seems self-evident, but some people actually think there's a benefit to being in the room with the speaker (that is, on the days when there is a live speaker).

[Darius871]

I forgot to tell you, Darius: if your bar review class has a live lecture room and a video room, like mine did, choose the video room as a habit. It seems self-evident, but some people actually think there's a benefit to being in the room with the speaker (that is, on the days when there is a live speaker).

Yep, even on the live days we head over to the choir room where they have a video linkup to the main room. Full tables instead of little flip-boards, a clearer view, and you never have to waste a neuron on whether to make/not make eye contact. It still feels stupid to drive and see what you could just watch online in a recliner with a pause button, but I'm sure I'd just slack off there.

[Solomwi]

Plus, you're free to act on those "**** this ****, I'm covered for today's lecture" moments.

[Al B. Sure!]

Darius:

You're planning on doing JAG?

[Darius871]

Applied twice, but in a ****ty year like this they had a 17-to-1 app-to-slot ratio for the Army with extremely competitive candidates, and I understand the prospects for AF and Navy JAG are even worse. It's not as if people treat that as a last resort.