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  • #76
    But Mr Hawking conceded most life elsewhere in the universe is likely to consist of simple microbes.


    Oh! They mean, just like here on Earth..

    That's a strange quote fragment to put in an article if their aim is to enlighten anyone.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by DanS View Post
      Give us a few hundred years and we'll be using mostly different resources ourselves.
      I don't know carbon and iron are probably here to stay.
      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
        We could end up like rats, pidgeons and cockroaches. Our visitors from the stars may usher in an unintentional golden age.
        Or Slumdogs.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #79
          Here ya' go Elok... Hawking is sqwalking over stalking. Because isn't that what the aliens would be doing is stalking us?
          Welcome to earth, my name is Tia and I'll be your tour guide for this trip.
          Succulent and Bejeweled Mother Goddess, who is always moisturised yet never greasy, always patient yet never suffers fools~Starchild
          Dragons? Yup- big flying lizards with an attitude. ~ Laz
          You are forgiven because you are FABULOUS ~ Imran

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          • #80
            Well, it's not perfect, but definitely better, TY Tia! Good to see somebody in this thread has her priorities straight! Shame on the rest of you.

            The cure for the Andromeda Strain is to wait until the end of the book. Then the little things will magically mutate to become harmless, all at once. Damn, that book had a lame ending. Sort of like a reverse War of the Worlds.
            1011 1100
            Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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            • #81
              Originally posted by DaShi View Post
              Can you support this with any evidence or at least reason?
              The economic world is in a constant state of resource substitution. Take a resource like iron ore. This resource is used in great quantities nowadays, but its uses are diminishing -- it is being substituted with carbon composites, refined bauxite, and more advanced concrete mixtures. Once you get to space applications, iron ore is not a good material because of its mass. Why would these aliens compete with humans for a resource like iron ore? Don't look at this so anthropocentrically.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #82
                Originally posted by DanS View Post
                The economic world is in a constant state of resource substitution. Take a resource like iron ore. This resource is used in great quantities nowadays, but its uses are diminishing -- it is being substituted with carbon composites, refined bauxite, and more advanced concrete mixtures. Once you get to space applications, iron ore is not a good material because of its mass. Why would these aliens compete with humans for a resource like iron ore? Don't look at this so anthropocentrically.
                What about competition for energy? Assuming a very advanced civ they may just decide our sun is just right for a Dyson sphere. And we're in the way.
                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                • #83
                  I'll worry about somtime near the end of the billion years it would take the complete it. Thats a conservative estimate.
                  "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                    I'll worry about somtime near the end of the billion years it would take the complete it. Thats a conservative estimate.
                    I didn't know you knew how to build a Dyson sphere... Awesome do tell!


                    (since that's the only way to actually predict something like that)
                    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                    • #85
                      i think a billion years would be a bit long to build even the most snazzy of vacuum cleaners.
                      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                      • #86
                        The fate of being found by Aliens first is a lot worse.

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                        • #87
                          Assuming you obtained or transmuted sufficient materials for the stupid thing and built it, got it stabilized and kept it running with a reasonable population...is building a Dyson Sphere possible without the energy obtained from a Dyson Sphere? Maybe you should go halfway and make a Ringworld.
                          1011 1100
                          Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by DanS View Post
                            The economic world is in a constant state of resource substitution. Take a resource like iron ore. This resource is used in great quantities nowadays, but its uses are diminishing -- it is being substituted with carbon composites, refined bauxite, and more advanced concrete mixtures. Once you get to space applications, iron ore is not a good material because of its mass. Why would these aliens compete with humans for a resource like iron ore? Don't look at this so anthropocentrically.
                            God, you're a moron. This is your argument? A single, nonsensical example of replacing one resource for another. And iron is still an extremely important resource.
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                              What about competition for energy? Assuming a very advanced civ they may just decide our sun is just right for a Dyson sphere. And we're in the way.
                              I'm more worried about the intergalatic highway that they are planning right through our orbit.
                              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                              "Capitalism ho!"

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                              • #90
                                The world is nearly all parcelled out, and what there is left of it is being divided up, conquered and colonised. To think of these stars that you see overhead at night, these vast worlds which we can never reach. I would annex the planets if I could; I often think of that. It makes me sad to see them so clear and yet so far.

                                -Cecil Rhodes
                                Please put Asher on your ignore list.
                                Please do not quote Asher.
                                He will go away if we ignore him.

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