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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post

    I believe in the Neo-Exodus (tm), the movement of educated 1st worlders to the 3rd, to end world poverty. Only when we move there and make those problems our own will things change; we must reverse the brain drain. Sending good money after bad is not getting us anywhere.
    By this logic you should be against skilled immigration since it hurts third world countries more than it helps first world countries. Are you?
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
      I'm trying to say that money doesn't solve anything. Giving time is way more effective.


      Ultimately, I think educated 1st worlders should move, en masse, to the 3rd world because poverty does not get solved from afar and we need to reverse the brain drain. When 1st world educated people must live under governments like that, and laws like that, then things will change. Until then, I hope everyone feels great giving money-bandaids to real problems.
      This is a retarded sentiment. Educated first worlders can be hired. An agricultural expert, bought with a donation of X hours of my salary will accomplish far more than I would with X hours of direct effort.

      Learn to think before speaking, please.
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
      Ultima Ratio Regum

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      • #18
        So Others Might Eat (local street aid)
        Breaking the cycle of homelessness and poverty for 50+ years.


        Catholic Charities (local street and other aid)
        Catholic Charities DC is largest independent social services agency in the D.C. region providing critical services to people in need.


        Catholic Relief Services (global relief in dire or disaster situations)
        Catholic Relief Services eases suffering and provides assistance to people in need in more than 100 countries, without regard to race, religion or nationality.


        Currently, I'm researching charities with which I can provide money for scholarships in the third world.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #19
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
          This is a retarded sentiment. Educated first worlders can be hired. An agricultural expert, bought with a donation of X hours of my salary will accomplish far more than I would with X hours of direct effort.

          Learn to think before speaking, please.

          Learn to read. And learn what really owning the problem means.


          Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
          By this logic you should be against skilled immigration since it hurts third world countries more than it helps first world countries. Are you?

          I'm against the brain drain.

          I'm also against most "food aid", as it mostly stabilizes domestic markets while wreaking havoc on foreign ones.
          The Kenyan economics expert James Shikwati, 35, says that aid to Africa does more harm than good. The avid proponent of globalization spoke with SPIEGEL about the disastrous effects of Western development policy in Africa, corrupt rulers, and the tendency to overstate the AIDS problem.



          But I believe, and act, in the neo-exodus.
          Last edited by Ecofarm; April 14, 2010, 12:34.
          Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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          • #20
            Some organizations rate charities. Like GiveWell, for example. Peter Singer recommends it in his book on world poverty. Didn't check them out myself, though.
            Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
              Learn to read.
              I read exactly what you wrote and responded directly to it. I am not an expert in agriculture, governance, or any of the other specialties which are of value in the third world. Neither are 99+% of people in the first world. Giving time instead of money is a selfish act.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #22
                I tithe to my church. Other than that I make and do what I can with what I have so that I and my family don't become recipients of charity in the future.
                Monkey!!!

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                • #23
                  I donate to Tarn Adams, because he's a mad genius.
                  Graffiti in a public toilet
                  Do not require skill or wit
                  Among the **** we all are poets
                  Among the poets we are ****.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    I read exactly what you wrote and responded directly to it. I am not an expert in agriculture, governance, or any of the other specialties which are of value in the third world. Neither are 99+% of people in the first world. Giving time instead of money is a selfish act.

                    Living there would force you to really address the source and not the symptoms, whatever those may be. Until then, you are an outsider with pleasant advice.
                    Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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                    • #25
                      I have no advice. Unlike you, I don't think that growing up in a developed country qualifies me to tell others how they should become developed.
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                        To which charity do you donate? Post links to charities you have personally donated to and think are worthwhile. A short message explaining why you feel so is welcomed too.


                        Let's hope as many of us as possible find a charity they feel like donating to here.



                        Edit:
                        I've untill now donated around 500EUR to various charities that help or try to help drug addicts or help fighting the spread of drug addiction. I felt like doing something to fight this after hearing around a year ago from a mutual accuaintance that an old childhood friend (& crush) died of an overdose.

                        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                        When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                        • #27
                          Is NYRA actually a charity?
                          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                          • #28
                            i prefer to give time rather than money. it's far more personal and more rewarding for me and i can see the fruits of my labours. i strongly believe that people should get involved in their local communities and try to make things better, instead of just complaining or hoping someone else will step in.

                            with time versus money, it really depends on what it is for, if you're giving to something like cancer research, then it's obviously better to give money. however, for stuff that involves working with people, it's far better to give your time and actually build relationships with the people you're helping and see firsthand what's going on.

                            1) circus eruption - teaching local kids circus skills. a lot of the kids are disabled or have behavioural problems, autism and the like. we play games, teach the kids a range of skills (and then watch as they become better at them than us very quickly! ), basically get the kids to have fun and interact with each other in a positive environment.

                            2) cats protection - i do 3 hours a week volunteering a charity shop. no particular reason for choosing cats protection, just that it's fairly close to my house and they needed volunteers.

                            3) english teaching - i do a couple of hours per week teaching english to refugees, asylum seekers and other immigrants at a local church. it's good fun and the people are nice and have some interesting stories (interesting here, sadly, can sometimes be translated as '****ing horrifying'). i do have a slightly selfish reason for doing this one though, i'm off to teach english in brasil in a month's time and need some actual experience of teaching before i go out.

                            i try to get involved in other things when the opportunity arises, like the knoll park challenge (working with kids in a muddy wood in neath, building rides and activities). a couple of years ago i led a project to renovate a part of morriston primary school, it covered everything from recruiting volunteers designing the new area, getting input from the kids and staff, raising the money, getting materials (mostly via donations from local businesses), publicising the whole thing, doing the actual work and hiring tradesmen to do the bits we couldn't do. it was good fun and it was really cool to see it all take shape.
                            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                            "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                            • #29
                              circus eruption? isn't that what the bearded lady takes the antibiotic for after she gets a little too friendly with the strong man?
                              The undeserving maintain power by promoting hysteria.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                                Is NYRA actually a charity?
                                Yup.

                                All donations are tax-deductible.
                                Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                                When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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