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    It’s official: U.S. wants Canada to stay in Afghanistan

    The United States has asked Canada to keep its troops in Afghanistan past 2011.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made it clear that Ottawa’s largest and closest ally wants to see Canadian troops stay on past next year’s withdrawal date.

    It will force the Harper government to decide between turning its back on Washington’s call for assistance or reneging on their oft-repeated pledge that Canadian troops will leave Afghanistan next July.

    “We would obviously like to see some form of support continue, because the Canadian Forces have a great reputation,” Ms. Clinton said in an interview with CTV News.

    She said that the U.S. wants the Canadian military to stay in Afghanistan past 2011, but the mission could be different from the combat role the Forces now have in Afghanistan.

    “There’s all kinds of things that are possible. The military could slip more into a training role than into a combat role,” Ms. Clinton said.

    The Globe and Mail reported last week that the United States was preparing to ask Canada to take on a training role in Afghanistan as it prepares to withdraw troops from combat. But Canada’s Foreign Affairs Minister, Lawrence Cannon, reiterated the Ottawa’s position that all troops will be withdrawn next year.

    The Liberals and Conservatives struck a 2008 parliamentary compromise that stipulated Canadian troops will withdraw from Kandahar in July, 2011.

    Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said his party will not support any combat mission past 2011, but would consider some other kind of post-2011 military mission. “We think there is a justification for some continued mission after 2011,” he said.

    The Conservatives, however, ruled it out: “The military mission ends in 2011, and we will move towards a civilian mission,” Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s spokesman, Dimitri Soudas, told The Globe.
    Here's hoping Harper sticks to his guns on this one.
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    It's just payment for free riding on our defense forces for the last century
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      It's just payment for free riding on our defense forces for the last century
      Right, we've been protecting Canada from... ourselves?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Asher View Post
        Here's hoping Harper sticks to his guns on this one.
        Given the Obama admin's sucess rate at getting countries to do what they want, your chances are good he will stick to his guns.
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        • #5
          And Hitler. He probably would have eventually gotten around to invading Canada.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
            Given the Obama admin's sucess rate at getting countries to do what they want, your chances are good he will stick to his guns.
            You realize the reason so few are helping in Afghanistan & Iraq predates Obama, right?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Elok View Post
              And Hitler. He probably would have eventually gotten around to invading Canada.
              It would've been amusing to see him try to conquer such a massive country so far from Germany.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                It's just payment for free riding on our defense forces for the last century


                Canada fought longer in real wars in the last century than the USA did.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  You realize the reason so few are helping in Afghanistan & Iraq predates Obama, right?
                  It's a general statement.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    It's a general statement.
                    I think my post implied it was a silly statement.
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                    • #11
                      My bad. Harper will cave then in the face of the charm offensive.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • #12
                        You are aware that we are still at war, Asher? And that like it or not, the Bamster is still our bestest ally ever?

                        Personally, I know this would never happen, but I'd love to see the Canadian forces stay and get it done even if the big O pulls everything out.
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                        • #13
                          Why should Canada do things most of NATO is unwilling to do if they don't percieve a national interest in doing so, BK?
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                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            You realize the reason so few are helping in Afghanistan & Iraq predates Obama, right?
                            Yes, both countries have been really, really ****ty places with incomprehensible politics and insular populations for a long time.

                            Re: Canada, I assume he would only take on the place after he had a solid supply of pure Nordic conscripts named Larsen from Minnesota. And slightly less pure crackers from other western/midwestern states.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              You are aware that we are still at war, Asher?
                              Canada is not at war. Check the laws.

                              Personally, I know this would never happen, but I'd love to see the Canadian forces stay and get it done even if the big O pulls everything out.
                              Not sure you comprehend what is going on here. The Conservatives in Canada want to pull out, the Democrats in the US want to stay.

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