Ann Coulter cries that Canada is bullying her

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm bothered it's even an issue. Canada should welcome speakers like Coulter.

[Drake Tungsten]

In an unusual move, the University of Ottawa sent her a warning before her speech, cautioning Ms. Coulter to watch her words lest she face criminal charges for promoting hatred in Canada.

“I hereby encourage you to educate yourself, if need be, as to what is acceptable in Canada and to do so before your planned visit here,” University of Ottawa academic vice-president François Houle wrote.

“Promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges.”

God, your country sucks so ****ing much. Free speech...

[Asher]

I'm bothered it's even an issue. Canada should welcome speakers like Coulter.

Canada did welcome her. She was permitted to speak at every school she asked to.

In the end, she was a coward and canceled one of them. That's her own failing, not Canada's.

[Guynemer]

Oh, yes. In most western countries such an obvious and obnoxious troll would have been tossed in the dungeon long ago.

And that is disgraceful.

No one on this board is more anti-Coulter than I, but no one should be jailed for speech, period.


And now, per Poly bylaw 437-B, subsection ii, all discussions of Ann Coulter must be accompanied by a picture of her vagina.

[Ben Kenobi]

In the end, she was a coward and canceled one of them. That's her own failing, not Canada's.

If she were gay, you'd be calling Ottawa homophobes.

Again, this is complete bull****.

[Asher]

If she were gay, you'd be calling Ottawa homophobes.

If people rioted at the prospect of a gay person speaking just because they were gay? Yes, they would be homophobes.

People were rioting not because she's right-wing, but because she spews vile and calls for the murder of other people. She's a vile human being that people didn't want her in their schools.

Again, this is complete bull****.

Yes, I concur. She should not have canceled. She clearly doesn't have the balls she thinks she does.

[Felch]

Just as a clarification.

Let's say that I had a bad experience with a bunch of gypsies, and I urged people to not trust them. Would shouting in public "Don't trust gypsies!" be regarded as a good faith attempt?

[Asher]

I'm 99% sure you wouldn't get in trouble for that.

To Ben's chagrin, the only time the hate speech law ever really gets used in practice is to smack down bigoted Christians preaching hate towards teh gays. It's also sometimes used in cases against douches like Mark Steyn who wrote incendiary islamophobic articles (which is bound to come up in this discussion from Ben -- but what he won't tell you is the charges against Steyn were dismissed).

[EPW]

bigoted Christians

stop hating

[Asher]

stop hating

How else would you define someone who wrote this piece? (Note: He is a Reverend, don't tell me he's not a Christian).

Homosexual Agenda Wicked



The following is not intended for those who are suffering from an unwanted sexual identity crisis. For you, I have understanding, care, compassion and tolerance. I sympathize with you and offer you my love and fellowship. I prayerfully beseech you to seek help, and I assure you that your present enslavement to homosexuality can be remedied. Many outspoken, former homosexuals are free today.

Instead, this is aimed precisely at every individual that in any way supports the homosexual machine that has been mercilessly gaining ground in our society since the 1960s. I cannot pity you any longer and remain inactive. You have caused far too much damage.

My banner has now been raised and war has been declared so as to defend the precious sanctity of our innocent children and youth, that you so eagerly toil, day and night, to consume. With me stand the greatest weapons that you have encountered to date - God and the "Moral Majority." Know this, we will defeat you, then heal the damage that you have caused. Modern society has become dispassionate to the cause of righteousness. Many people are so apathetic and desensitized today that they cannot even accurately define the term "morality."

The masses have dug in and continue to excuse their failure to stand against horrendous atrocities such as the aggressive propagation of homo- and bisexuality. Inexcusable justifications such as, "I'm just not sure where the truth lies," or "If they don't affect me then I don't care what they do," abound from the lips of the quantifiable majority.

Face the facts, it is affecting you. Like it or not, every professing heterosexual is have their future aggressively chopped at the roots.

Edmund Burke's observation that, "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," has been confirmed time and time again. From kindergarten class on, our children, your grandchildren are being strategically targeted, psychologically abused and brainwashed by homosexual and pro-homosexual educators.

Our children are being victimized by repugnant and premeditated strategies, aimed at desensitizing and eventually recruiting our young into their camps. Think about it, children as young as five and six years of age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights.

Your children are being warped into believing that same-sex families are acceptable; that men kissing men is appropriate.

Your teenagers are being instructed on how to perform so-called safe same gender oral and anal sex and at the same time being told that it is normal, natural and even productive. Will your child be the next victim that tests homosexuality positive?

Come on people, wake up! It's time to stand together and take whatever steps are necessary to reverse the wickedness that our lethargy has authorized to spawn. Where homosexuality flourishes, all manner of wickedness abounds.

Regardless of what you hear, the militant homosexual agenda isn't rooted in protecting homosexuals from "gay bashing." The agenda is clearly about homosexual activists that include, teachers, politicians, lawyers, Supreme Court judges, and God forbid, even so-called ministers, who are all determined to gain complete equality in our nation and even worse, our world.

Don't allow yourself to be deceived any longer. These activists are not morally upright citizens, concerned about the best interests of our society. They are perverse, self-centered and morally deprived individuals who are spreading their psychological disease into every area of our lives. Homosexual rights activists and those that defend them, are just as immoral as the pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps that plague our communities.

The homosexual agenda is not gaining ground because it is morally backed. It is gaining ground simply because you, Mr. and Mrs. Heterosexual, do nothing to stop it. It is only a matter of time before some of these morally bankrupt individuals such as those involved with NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Lovers Association, will achieve their goal to have sexual relations with children and assert that it is a matter of free choice and claim that we are intolerant bigots not to accept it.

If you are reading this and think that this is alarmist, then I simply ask you this: how bad do things have to become before you will get involved? It's time to start taking back what the enemy has taken from you. The safety and future of our children is at stake.

Rev. Stephen Boissoin

This is a good example. This case was put to court, and he was originally found guilty of hate speech for this publication (it was a newspaper letter to the editor he wrote), but was subsequently overturned on appeal (oldtimers on the site may remember that Ben issued his famous 'totalitarian country' comment in this context: he said Boissoin would be guilty because the courts have a '100% conviction rate' [a complete fabrication], and amounted to "Star Tribunals").

Within a week of that letter being published in the town of Red Deer, a gay teen there was assaulted and hospitalized because he was gay.

[Berzerker]

To Ben's chagrin, the only time the hate speech law ever really gets used in practice is to smack down bigoted Christians preaching hate towards teh gays. It's also sometimes used in cases against douches like Mark Steyn who wrote incendiary islamophobic articles (which is bound to come up in this discussion from Ben -- but what he won't tell you is the charges against Steyn were dismissed).

But they were brought... And Islam sucks. I really do hate it... Is it illegal for me to say that in Canada? Eh, maybe I dont mind the eastern brand, but the ME kind of Islam sucks. You asked what part of the law sucks? There you go...

[Asher]

But they were brought... And Islam sucks. I really do hate it... Is it illegal for me to say that in Canada?

No, did you read the laws? Apparently not.

Don't be a drama queen.

[Asher]

You are allowed to express hatred. You are allowed to say you hate gays. You are allowed to say you hate Christians.

What you cannot do is make **** up about an identifiable group for the purposes of inciting hate. For instance, I thought this was a clear example of that:

They are perverse, self-centered and morally deprived individuals who are spreading their psychological disease into every area of our lives. Homosexual rights activists and those that defend them, are just as immoral as the pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps that plague our communities.

The homosexual agenda is not gaining ground because it is morally backed. It is gaining ground simply because you, Mr. and Mrs. Heterosexual, do nothing to stop it. It is only a matter of time before some of these morally bankrupt individuals such as those involved with NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Lovers Association, will achieve their goal to have sexual relations with children and assert that it is a matter of free choice and claim that we are intolerant bigots not to accept it.

If you are reading this and think that this is alarmist, then I simply ask you this: how bad do things have to become before you will get involved? It's time to start taking back what the enemy has taken from you. The safety and future of our children is at stake.

It's quite clearly equating gays to child predators and attempting to make a call to action while referring to gays as 'the enemy'.

As strong as this one was, it did not hold up on appeal. The speech needs to be particularly vile and hateful to fit, it would seem.

Such speech does nothing to benefit society in any way. I can understand why Americans love to beat the drum of "freedom of speech", but if one rationally analyzes the situation there's nothing to be gained from such speech. It's destructive to society.

Canada strives for a harmonious society, the US seems to thrive on an antagonistic society. Maybe that's why the US has more problems with racial divides, racism, violence, etc. I'm all for letting people talk, but we must draw lines.

[Berzerker]

well, dont wanna be a drama queen but if I hate Islam and go around explaining why, how would I be exempt from the law? I'm "inciting" hatred of a religion.

[Drake Tungsten]

Canada strives for a harmonious society, the US seems to thrive on an antagonistic society.

Seeing you defend harmony over antagonism is a trip, man.