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  • #76
    The same rules also existed in the Royal Canadian Navy, the Royal Canadian Navy Volunteer Reserve, the Royal Canadian Navy(Reserve) and the Royal Navy Canadian Volunteer Reserve. Also the RAF Canada, the Royal Flying Corps, the Canadian Flying Corps and the Canadian Air Force also had the same set of rules, having evolved from both RCN/Army traditions!
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    • #77
      Originally posted by bc1871 View Post
      The same rules also existed in the Royal Canadian Navy, the Royal Canadian Navy Volunteer Reserve, the Royal Canadian Navy(Reserve) and the Royal Navy Canadian Volunteer Reserve. Also the RAF Canada, the Royal Flying Corps, the Canadian Flying Corps and the Canadian Air Force also had the same set of rules, having evolved from both RCN/Army traditions!
      Okay, now you're just trolling.

      The Navy was ****ing invented so the homosexuals could bugger eachother without society judging them. We all know it.

      "Hey, let's put 32 horny teenagers and 20-something men into a room together, thousands of miles from shore and see what happens". That's not gay AT ALL.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #78
        Actually, engaging in buggery with the boy seamen(who at least according to RCN Rules circa 1911 had to be the age of 16) was punishable by corporal punishment, either dispensed by the ship's Jaunty(aka: Master-at-Arms) or one of the Ship's Corporals. Though there may have occasionally been cases of sodomy, they were dealt with quite expediently (though some have commented that the "Divisional System" implemented post WW1 did an even better job at cracking down on the problem).
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        • #79
          Before 1859, Canada relied on British law to prosecute sodomy. In 1859, Canada repatriated its buggery law in the Consolidated Statutes of Canada as an offense punishable by death. Buggery remained punishable by death until 1869. A broader law targeting all homosexual male sexual activity ("gross indecency") was passed in 1892, as part of a larger update to the criminal law. Changes to the criminal code in 1948 and 1961 were used to brand gay men as "criminal sexual psychopaths" and "dangerous sexual offenders." These labels provided for indeterminate prison sentences. Most famously, George Klippert, a homosexual, was labelled a dangerous sexual offender and sentenced to life in prison, a sentence confirmed by the Supreme Court of Canada.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by bc1871 View Post
            Actually, engaging in buggery with the boy seamen(who at least according to RCN Rules circa 1911 had to be the age of 16) was punishable by corporal punishment, either dispensed by the ship's Jaunty(aka: Master-at-Arms) or one of the Ship's Corporals.
            Boy howdy, was there ever. Why do you think the gay scene is obsessed with leather and whips these days? Old habits die hard.

            The boy seamen loved getting ridden by the ship's Jaunty.
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            • #81
              Extracts from Queen's Regulations and Admiralty Instructions 1879

              690. By Corporal Punishment is to be understood the usual punishment at the Gangway; it is to be carried out according to the custom of the Service, and in the presence of the Captain, the Officers, and the Ship's Company, or as many as can be spared from other duties. Every other description of Corporal Punishment by rope, stick, or any other instrument, is hereby forbidden, with the exception of the authorised caning and birching of Boys.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                Okay, now you're just trolling.

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                • #83
                  I'm against gays serving in the military but hear me out. My reasoning that is that if the United States ever became a autocratic military dictatorship, we would be at the mercy of our gay fascist overlords and that frightens me.

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                  • #84
                    Back to Patty's commennt that raised the question. If homophobia is not an appropriate word to speak of people who hate gay people, what would be a better word?

                    I thought heterosexism might work, but heterosexism and hatred of gay people are not always the same, or go hand-in-hand. One can sometimes be heterosexist without necessarily opposing equal rights for gays, or hating gay people. I think of heterosexism as simply always behaving and interacting with others with the absolute presumption that everyone is straight, until a person says otherwise. Their entire worldview is on the presumption that everything is based on heterosexuality.

                    So when talking about those who really do hate gay people, if homophobia is not an appropriate word, what word should we use?
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                      QFT - apparently without ever having ever met me in person and without knowing me at all, Eco is arrogant and presumptuously dumb enough to think I'm a nelly queen.

                      I'm just not like that. I hate being stereotyped, especially by someone who does not know me at all.
                      I notice your avatar is no longer a banana hat.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by MrFun View Post

                        So when talking about those who really do hate gay people, if homophobia is not an appropriate word, what word should we use?
                        Homocist? Probaly Gaycist would be better as there appears to be much less outrage over lesbians. Certainly when it would involve a threesome
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by germanos View Post
                          Homocist? Probaly Gaycist would be better as there appears to be much less outrage over lesbians. Certainly when it would involve a threesome
                          Threesome, eh? Are there some experiences of your own that you'd like to share with us, Germanos?
                          Last edited by MrFun; March 23, 2010, 13:59.
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                          • #88
                            Three is not a multitude, Fun
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                            • #89
                              How about just calling them cysts?
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by germanos View Post
                                Three is not a multitude, Fun
                                Don't avoid the question.
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