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  • Government Waste, from the bottom up

    Why is it that, whenever some politician yaks about wasteful government spending, they fuss over some wretched little lump of pork in the latest bill? Oh yeah, because the real problem is much more boring. But still:

    When I was recruited as a census clerk, I had to go through about ten hours of training. All of it was worthless, pertaining only to the Recruiting Assistants who were also in my class. What little pertained to my job could have been learned much more effectively in ten minutes hands-on. I was one of five clerks taking that training at about $10/hr, plus a new tech officer who presumably earns considerably more, and the assistant manager who had to teach us probably earned the same amount. Result, well over a thousand dollars in tax money spent NOT DOING A DAMNED THING USEFUL.

    Upon hiring, I was assigned to recruiting, a rather busy operation given that our office wants about six thousand applicants in the space of a year. The applicants are signed up over the phone to take the mandatory test. We write down their names on paper and stick them in binders. Binders, FFS. If the CEO of a non-government agency in the middle of a massive recruiting drive found his people in charge scribbling notes in binders in the year 2010, I assume he would axe several people and get a sensible database to keep track of all this. I imagine we could buy and set up a reasonable dedicated system for the cost of not-training ten clerks. But we don't, so we have problems with people getting signed up for canceled testing sessions, five sessions with two people each on the same damned day, etc.

    Less than a month ago, my office got an order from Philadelphia (the higher office) that I-9 identity forms are no longer to be stored with applicants' other paperwork. We have about 2500 applicants, but okay. We went through all the folders, taking about 15 man-hours to separate the I-9s and alphabetize them. Sometime this week, a second order came down that I-9s are now to be stored with the other paperwork. Yay!

    There are many more examples if for some reason you want them, but my point is, if this kind of crap is found throughout the federal government (and my fed retiree dad assures me it is), we could probably get by on two-thirds of our present budget by just not acting all ex-governor-of-Alaska'd. We're bleeding money from a million tiny cuts, not to mention the absurd hiring process that all but ensures incompetents will be hired. Are the governments of other countries like this?
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    Yes, the tiny cuts are wasteful; however, I'd rather focus on the gigantic tears of the bilateral carotids: the complete political pandering of the ever-escalating Pentagon budget, to no real purpose; and the ever-rising amount of money spent on Medicare/Medicaid, without any increasing benefit in either health outcomes or the number of people covered.


    We can focus on the minor, superficial, oozing lacerations if you'd like, but the patient will have bled out by the time we get them all sutured.
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    • #3
      I saw a news report on CNN this morning of Republicans who lashed out against the whole job stimulus bill, but then turned around and supported keeping parts of it that benefited their respective states.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MrFun View Post
        I saw a news report on CNN this morning of Republicans who lashed out against the whole job stimulus bill, but then turned around and supported keeping parts of it that benefited their respective states.
        What's wrong with that? It seems a perfectly reasonable course of action.
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        • #5
          Well if you have no problem with hypocrisy, then there is nothing wrong with that.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
            What's wrong with that? It seems a perfectly reasonable course of action.
            This right here is why your system needs reform.
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            • #7
              Sadly, we can't sterilize him.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                Well if you have no problem with hypocrisy, then there is nothing wrong with that.
                It seems perfectly reasonable and logical to hold that a) that increasing government spending in the ways the stimulus plan did isn't a very good way to promote growth in a depressed economy and that b) that if the government is going to spew out gobs of cash, the people it is spent on will benefit. Once the opposition to the stimulus bill failed, it seems right and proper for a Congressman to a fair share of the spending for his/her constituents.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #9
                  It should go to the people who will benefit, which need not necessarily be his constituents. That's the problem.
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                  • #10
                    Why does Mr. Fun single out Republicans? Answer, he likes the whole bill and would rather that they spend more rather then less.

                    Excellent analysis, Mr Fun.
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                    • #11
                      Elok, you are smart and intelligent. Have you noticed that characteristic in most of your fellow census workers? I'm sure you could pick up the job in 10 minutes, but not everyone is that bright.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Why does Mr. Fun single out Republicans? Answer, he likes the whole bill and would rather that they spend more rather then less.

                        Excellent analysis, Mr Fun.
                        Dear ****,

                        I never supported parts of the job stimulus bill that are nothing but blatant, useless pork barrel "projects." I support the stimulus bill that creates concrete results in regard to either job creation, or preservation of jobs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                          It seems perfectly reasonable and logical to hold that a) that increasing government spending in the ways the stimulus plan did isn't a very good way to promote growth in a depressed economy and that b) that if the government is going to spew out gobs of cash, the people it is spent on will benefit. Once the opposition to the stimulus bill failed, it seems right and proper for a Congressman to a fair share of the spending for his/her constituents.
                          The problem is that kind of attitude isn't going to reduce spending.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            It should go to the people who will benefit, which need not necessarily be his constituents. That's the problem.
                            Asher beat me to replying, DD. The Republicans and Democrats who suffer from tunnel vision and only support parts of the bill that affects their area is just too short-sighted, and closed-minded for my taste. I realize politicians are responsible for those who voted for them, but they need to have a better perspective on the greater good of our country, too. It's all about the ideal balance.

                            As Asher said, I want a greater responsibility among politicians for the greater good.
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                            • #15
                              I never supported parts of the job stimulus bill that are nothing but blatant, useless pork barrel "projects." I support the stimulus bill that creates concrete results in regard to either job creation, or preservation of jobs.
                              This thread appears to be talking about the census and how the current democrat administration is burning tax dollars through wasteful and unnecessary pratices.

                              Why are you trying to make this thread about Republicans? Is this the third term of Bush, and he's managing the Census?
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