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  • Jobs Bill and Republican-Style Spending

    Apparently, Democrats are not the only politicians who like to spend big.

    By ANDREW TAYLOR and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER Andrew Taylor And Stephen Ohlemacher – Fri Feb 12, 3:58 am ET
    WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats scrapped a bipartisan jobs bill in favor of one they say is leaner and focused solely on putting Americans back to work, and they're all but daring Republicans to vote against it.

    The new, stripped-down proposal followed criticism that the bipartisan version wouldn't create many jobs.

    The switch brought sharp accusations of reneging from Republicans who thought they had a deal, jeopardizing a brief attempt at bipartisan lawmaking.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's latest bill focuses on several popular provisions aimed at boosting job creation, including a new tax break negotiated with Republicans for companies that hire unemployed workers and for small businesses that purchase new equipment. It also would renew highway programs and help states and local governments finance large infrastructure projects.

    Reid, D-Nev., put forward the pared-back plan after Senate Democrats balked at a broader bill stuffed with unrelated provisions sought by lobbyists for business groups and doctors. The surprise blew apart an agreement with key Republicans like Chuck Grassley of Iowa, who worked with Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., for weeks to produce a bill containing the extra provisions.

    The original bill had won support from across the political spectrum, from President Barack Obama as well as conservative Republicans in the Senate, offering the promise of a rare bipartisan package in a Congress that has been gripped by partisan fights. To get that support, however, the package had morphed into a 361-page grab bag of provisions that included extending benefits to the unemployed and tax breaks for businesses.

    Now, the bipartisan agreement is off.

    "Our side isn't sure that the Republicans are real interested in developing good policy and to move forward together," said Sen. Thomas Carper, D-Del. "Instead, they are more inclined to play rope-a-dope again. My own view is, let's test them."

    Said Reid: "Republicans are going to have to make a choice. I don't know in logic what they could say to oppose this."

    Reid officially put the measure before the Senate on Thursday evening, setting up a key test vote when the chamber returns the week of Feb. 22. He'll need at least one GOP vote to prevail in a filibuster challenge.

    Republicans said they were blind-sided by Reid's about-face.

    Grassley spokeswoman Jill Kozeny said in an e-mail that Reid "pulled the rug out from work to build broad-based support for tax relief and other efforts to help the private sector recover from the economic crisis."

    The bigger bill got a decidedly mixed reception at a luncheon meeting of Democrats, many of whom were uncomfortable with supporting a bill containing so many provisions unrelated to creating jobs, including loans for chicken producers and aid to catfish farmers.

    The provisions also included a $31 billion package of tax breaks for individuals and businesses, an extension of several parts of the USA Patriot Act and higher payments for doctors facing Medicare payment cuts.

    The surprise move appears to insulate Democrats from criticism that greeted the earlier, lobbyist-backed legislation first leaked on Tuesday and officially unveiled by Baucus and Grassley — to praise from the White House — only hours before Reid's announcement.

    The centerpiece of Reid's new bill is a $13 billion payroll tax credit for companies that hire unemployed workers. The idea, by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, would exempt businesses hiring unemployed workers in 2010 from the 6.2 percent Social Security payroll tax for those hires.

    It also would provide an additional $1,000 tax credit for workers retained for a full year and deposit an additional $20 billion into the federal highway trust fund — money that would have to be borrowed. There's also $2 billion to subsidize bond issues by state and local governments for large infrastructure projects

    But Republicans are irate at the tactics and said Reid had gone back on a deal reached with some of the Senate's heaviest hitters, including Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.
    Senate Democrats Favor Leaner Jobs Bill
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    Is it OK that I find it amusing that they refuse to call it Stimulus III?
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    • #3
      Bait and switch.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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      • #4
        Porkulus II

        Does it really matter repub or dem? Those bastards are spending every penny they can milk from us, and doubling it with imaginary money. They are just spending everything they can in one last big bash before we either A. Kick them all out of office or B. Enter depression.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
          Porkulus II

          Does it really matter repub or dem? Those bastards are spending every penny they can milk from us, and doubling it with imaginary money. They are just spending everything they can in one last big bash before we either A. Kick them all out of office or B. Enter depression.

          Death to incumbents.
          Mr. Fun really doesn't see it that way. He still believes that one party is actually better than the other.
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          • #6
            I like that these spending plans are being screwed up. The more acrimony and distrust the better.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sprayber View Post
              Mr. Fun really doesn't see it that way. He still believes that one party is actually better than the other.
              No, there are scumbags in both parties. My point was that unlike what many conservatives believe, excessive spending or pork is not just a Democratic phenomenon.

              You can grasp that, right?
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              • #8
                That's a dumb point, MrFun. For one, much of the tea partiers' ire is directed at Republicans for profligate spending. At best, most people who I talk to lately are voting for the lesser of two evils with regard to spending.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #9
                  What is this one now? Bride of Porkulus?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                    No, there are scumbags in both parties. My point was that unlike what many conservatives believe, excessive spending or pork is not just a Democratic phenomenon.

                    You can grasp that, right?
                    Yes, both parties are scumbags. But who here believes that excessive spending is strickly a dem phenom?
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                    • #11
                      From what I heard Reid got flabbergasted by left-wing voices grumbling over some of the earmarks after they had agreed to the original bill. When Reid et al. threw in some cookies for some Repub districts was when the left complained, Reid had had enough and cut it back to bare bones.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DanS View Post
                        That's a dumb point, MrFun. For one, much of the tea partiers' ire is directed at Republicans for profligate spending. At best, most people who I talk to lately are voting for the lesser of two evils with regard to spending.
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                        • #13
                          "Bare bones" is a loaded term. Bare bones would be living without a jobs bill at all. That's how it should be.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #14
                            Well, bare bones for a pork-laden congressional bill.
                            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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                            • #15
                              I don't mind spending, as long as I get the benefits from it. The way things are going I probably won't even get my social security though.

                              I'm more worried about the trade deficit. I don't mind borrowing money from USians, but borrowing from foreigners really gets me mad.
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