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  • #16
    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
    We weren't generations in debt. It's not that hard to figure out.


    We weren't put into generations of debt by Reagan, Bush I, or Bush 2? You do realize that accounts for about 9/10ths to 10/11ths of the national debt, right? Oh, who am I kidding? Of course you don't know that.
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    • #17
      Conservatives want something for nothing. They want a balanced budget, but will **** and moan if there is any slightest increase in any kind of taxes to help balance the budget.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #18
        Texas is having no problems. I suggest you rethink your position.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #19
          I'm a top. I don't need to rethink my position.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #20
            Conservatives want something for nothing. They want a balanced budget, but will **** and moan if there is any slightest increase in any kind of taxes to help balance the budget.
            Uh it's called
            CUTTING SPENDING!

            It's not 'something for nothing.' The only people who want something for nothing are liberals who constantly increase government spending and believe taxes are manna from heaven.
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            • #21
              Good for you Ben if you opposed Bush's domestic spending. But the problem almost certainly won't be fixed without addressing foreign policy and military spending.
              Preaching to the choir here. However, I believe that defending the country is one of the few mandates that the Federal government has in a constitutional sense.

              Cutting domestic spending while maintaining an obscene military budget that funds 700+ military bases in ~130 countries, and engaging in multiple concurrent war theaters - both overt and covert - not to mention billions in "foreign aid", is not a healthy balance, nor is is sustainable.

              When put to the average voter, they overwhelmingly support domestic spending over foreign. That is until the fear-mongering propaganda machine kicks into high gear, and the military-industrial complex gets its billions so we can fight cavemen in third-world countries in the name of "security".
              So what do you cut and where? America has many enemies, putting your head in the sand doesn't change this fact. Pulling out everywhere doesn't stop them from being your enemies either.
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              • #22
                Ben Kenobi
                This post is hidden because Ben Kenobi is on your Ignore list.
                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  Good for you Ben if you opposed Bush's domestic spending. But the problem almost certainly won't be fixed without addressing foreign policy and military spending.

                  Preaching to the choir here. However, I believe that defending the country is one of the few mandates that the Federal government has in a constitutional sense.


                  Cutting domestic spending while maintaining an obscene military budget that funds 700+ military bases in ~130 countries, and engaging in multiple concurrent war theaters - both overt and covert - not to mention billions in "foreign aid", is not a healthy balance, nor is is sustainable.

                  When put to the average voter, they overwhelmingly support domestic spending over foreign. That is until the fear-mongering propaganda machine kicks into high gear, and the military-industrial complex gets its billions so we can fight cavemen in third-world countries in the name of "security".

                  So what do you cut and where? America has many enemies, putting your head in the sand doesn't change this fact. Pulling out everywhere doesn't stop them from being your enemies either.
                  There you go.
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                  • #24
                    Cutting domestic spending while maintaining an obscene military budget that funds 700+ military bases in ~130 countries, and engaging in multiple concurrent war theaters - both overt and covert - not to mention billions in "foreign aid", is not a healthy balance, nor is is sustainable.
                    Even if the above were true, and its not, all of that matters not a bit as the growth in the domestic budget over the last ten and next ten years makes the military budget look like peanuts. Try again.
                    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                    • #25
                      You're suggesting the current fiscal trajectory of the US is sustainable?

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                      • #26
                        I think he's talking about the "direct payment to individuals" part of govt spending.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                          I'm a top. I don't need to rethink my position.
                          Do you always have to work your sexual orientation into the conversation?
                          It's not gays that I have a problem with, it's gays that act like you.
                          Drop your sexual frustrations, and don't bring it up in every single conversation.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                            Do you always have to work your sexual orientation into the conversation?
                            It's not gays that I have a problem with, it's gays that act like you.
                            Drop your sexual frustrations, and don't bring it up in every single conversation.
                            What sexual frustration?

                            I don't bring it up in every conversation. But sometimes, I throw out a joke that has sexual connotations. Some straight posters on here do that too - give it a try.

                            Oh, and learn to lighten up.
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              Uh it's called
                              CUTTING SPENDING!
                              It's nice to say such things, but where was the Conservative revolt when President George W. Bush was expanding Medicare? That seemed to pass fairly easily.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #30
                                It's nice to say such things, but where was the Conservative revolt when President George W. Bush was expanding Medicare? That seemed to pass fairly easily.
                                If you can find a quote where I favoured medicare expansion, be my guest.

                                I think medicare should be reformed, along with social security.
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