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  • #76
    WHAT THE ****? WHAT THE ****? WHAT THE ****? WHAT THE ****?

    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    So you honestly think without public subsidy there would be no history, not art, no music, etc?
    WHAT THE ****?

    Where do you get this ****.

    Public subsidy benefits engineers and science folks, just as much as it benefits arts students. Who do you think pays for your labs at the universities?
    WHAT THE ****?

    Science did nothing for thousands of years until the governments of europe began to engage in public subsidy of their pursuits. Look at Tycho and the island of Hveen? Do you think he would have been as successful, if he did not have a patron?
    WHAT THE ****?

    There's only one pretentious douchebag here, and that's you. The whole concept that the value of a subject is afflicted by public subsidy, well that's a Randian for you. I am not a Randian. But then I think you believe you devise that philosophy yourself?
    WHAT THE ****?

    I'm referring to my position in opposition of public funding for philosophy degrees as there's no societal value in people taking it. This is NOT AT ALL making a statement that the VALUE of a subject is afflicted by PUBLIC SUBSIDY.

    WHAT THE ****?

    The fact that you rely on a philosopher well known for her book which was not publicly subsidised for the ideas you charge against philosophy, is hilarious. What do you think Rand was? She wasn't a computer scientist.
    WHAT THE ****?

    You are so ****ing mentally deficient that the fact that you were awarded a BA completely discredits the entire degree.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      Again, see clue train. I'm glad to see that you are on board now. Welcome to the world of reality.
      What a ****ing joke: http://www.avemariahealth.com/

      Now answer my question.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #78
        What did you major in Ben?

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        • #79
          Now, if Asher had asked, I would have been polite enough to tell him that the boss cancelled the project, after my contract had been finished. It seems he had problems with the web developers, who took his money and did nothing for 4 months.

          But then, Asher didn't bother to ask if my work was implemented. Oh well. I feel sorry for living in Asherworld where you are vindictive enough to report my former employer for violations that do not exist.
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          • #80
            What did you major in Ben?
            History.

            I did two years of sciences, major in Physics and Astro, essentially what KH ended up finishing with his PhD.

            I switched over to history in third year, and eventually finished up a history degree. So, I'm aware of the benefits of the science programs, but they aren't a panacea as they are in Asherland. I think it's beneficial for folks to get an idea of both worlds.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              Now, if Asher had asked, I would have been polite enough to tell him that the boss cancelled the project, after my contract had been finished. It seems he had problems with the web developers, who took his money and did nothing for 4 months.

              But then, Asher didn't bother to ask if my work was implemented. Oh well. I feel sorry for living in Asherworld where you are vindictive enough to report my former employer for violations that do not exist.
              You had just said you were responsible for information about medication that was life or death to patients. You are not qualified for that. If you are telling the truth, I am certain that is a violation of some kind.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • #82
                Ben, as CEO/President of Ave Maria health, could you kindly tell them to get this picture the **** off their bum **** site?

                The largest healthfood store in Northern B.C. Vitamins Herbs Organic Produce Natural Groceries Gifts Church Supplies

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                • #83
                  I'm referring to my position in opposition of public funding for philosophy degrees as there's no societal value in people taking it.
                  Why is there no societal value in philosophy? Are you aware that a statement that "all degrees ought to have intrinsic value to society" is in itself a philosophy? What is wrong with personal development and edification? I'd argue that a society derives a benefit simply from having a population aware of philosophical ideas, and capable of discerning them when confronted.

                  You are so ****ing mentally deficient that the fact that you were awarded a BA completely discredits the entire degree.
                  I'm astonished that someone could go 4 years of a degree and not cultivate any appreciation of philosophy.
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                  • #84
                    You had just said you were responsible for information about medication that was life or death to patients.
                    I said, and if you had comprehended that I was to assist in the development of an online store. Part of my duties, among others, was to provide concise and accurate information on all the products available including pharmaceuticals.

                    You made several assumptions here.

                    1. That my work was somehow deficient in accuracy. It was not. I only used reliable sources for information on all products, usually the manufacturer, and occasionally, if the manufacturer did not provide sufficient information, the best information I could find on a similar product. I am qualified to do this research, provided I list the sources, which I did.

                    2. That my work was in fact implemented. As evinced by the website, it was not, had you asked I would have told you, but you were so hell-bent on vindictiveness, that you chose to forge ahead.

                    3. That my work was not scrutinised by my boss, who is in fact qualified, or by one of my supervisors. This of course is true. Nothing would go up on the website unless it was approved by them.

                    You need to stop and ask yourself, why is Ben punking me yet again? Maybe he knows more about this situation than I do.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Why is there no societal value in philosophy? Are you aware that a statement that "all degrees ought to have intrinsic value to society" is in itself a philosophy?
                      Yes, which is precisely why it doesn't need to be taught. It's obvious.

                      FWIW, you are AGAIN misrepresenting my statement:
                      "all degrees subsidized by society ought to have intrinsic value to society"

                      What is wrong with personal development and edification?
                      Nothing, so long as you don't take other people's money from them to do it. I'm 100% behind private colleges and universities and classes for things that are purely for personal edification, I just don't want to pay for them.

                      I'd argue that a society derives a benefit simply from having a population aware of philosophical ideas, and capable of discerning them when confronted.
                      You do not need to study philosophy in university for this to be the case. This is why philosophy in university is a waste.

                      I'm astonished that someone could go 4 years of a degree and not cultivate any appreciation of philosophy.
                      I'm sure the list of things that astonish you is infinite.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        I said, and if you had comprehended that I was to assist in the development of an online store. Part of my duties, among others, was to provide concise and accurate information on all the products available including pharmaceuticals.

                        You made several assumptions here.

                        1. That my work was somehow deficient in accuracy. It was not. I only used reliable sources for information on all products, usually the manufacturer, and occasionally, if the manufacturer did not provide sufficient information, the best information I could find on a similar product. I am qualified to do this research, provided I list the sources, which I did.

                        2. That my work was in fact implemented. As evinced by the website, it was not, had you asked I would have told you, but you were so hell-bent on vindictiveness, that you chose to forge ahead.

                        3. That my work was not scrutinised by my boss, who is in fact qualified, or by one of my supervisors. This of course is true. Nothing would go up on the website unless it was approved by them.

                        You need to stop and ask yourself, why is Ben punking me yet again? Maybe he knows more about this situation than I do.
                        Look, Ben. This is simple.

                        Either you were responsible in a critical situation that is "life and death" in researching pharmaceutical information for patients, or you were a data entry *****.

                        You are now trying to distance yourself from the former, so it is clearly the latter.

                        You're not punking anyone here but yourself.

                        Frankly, if it was a serious company, I would email them and be sure they triple-check all of your work. One thing you are completely and utterly inept at is READING COMPREHENSION. No wonder your project was cancelled, it must've been a ****ing disaster.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #87
                          Nothing, so long as you don't take other people's money from them to do it. I'm 100% behind private colleges and universities and classes for things that are purely for personal edification, I just don't want to pay for them.
                          I would argue that society does derive a benefit from philosophy majors, and training, not the least in the way of lawyers. I can see you arguing for no public funding, but I can't see why philosophy ought to be singled out. I mean you have sociology, you have women's studies, you have all manner of fluff courses that could also go, but you want to target the oldest discipline of them all?

                          The very idea that there ought to be universities comes from Plato's academy. I cannot see any justification to remove studying that book from a university, I would argue that philosophy should be one of the core disciplines of all liberal arts educations, and that if philosophy was unfit to be taught in a university, that the entire concept of a university was invalid.

                          You do not need to study philosophy in university for this to be the case. This is why philosophy in university is a waste.
                          The same is true of computer sciences. You can certainly learn to program without taking formal instruction.
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                          • #88
                            No wonder your project was cancelled, it must've been a ****ing disaster.
                            It was. The programmers screwed him over completely. He was very happy with my work though.

                            You need to learn to stop taking things so seriously asher, and just mello. Life is way more pleasant. People aren't out to get you.

                            you were a data entry *****.
                            I'm proud of the work I did. I don't need uppity code monkeys to validate me.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              The same is true of computer sciences. You can certainly learn to program without taking formal instruction.
                              Anyone taking computer science to learn how to program is wasting their time and money. Get a ****ing book or read on the web, or take a community college diploma.

                              Computer science is not about programming.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #90
                                Computer science is not about programming.
                                Oh, ok. What's the philosophy behind computer science then?
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