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    By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer Hope Yen, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 57 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – The level of poverty in America is even worse than first believed.

    A revised formula for calculating medical costs and geographic variations show that approximately 47.4 million Americans last year lived in poverty, 7 million more than the government's official figure.

    The disparity occurs because of differing formulas the Census Bureau and the National Academy of Science use for calculating the poverty rate. The NAS formula shows the poverty rate to be at 15.8 percent, or nearly 1 in 6 Americans, according to calculations released this week. That's higher than the 13.2 percent, or 39.8 million, figure made available recently under the original government formula.

    That measure, created in 1955, does not factor in rising medical care, transportation, child care or geographical variations in living costs. Nor does it consider non-cash government aid when calculating income. As a result, official figures released last month by Census may have overlooked millions of poor people, many of them 65 and older.

    According to the revised NAS formula:

    _About 18.7 percent of Americans 65 and older, or nearly 7.1 million, are in poverty compared to 9.7 percent, or 3.7 million, under the traditional measure. That's due to out-of-pocket expenses from rising Medicare premiums, deductibles and a coverage gap in the prescription drug benefit.

    _About 14.3 percent of people 18 to 64, or 27 million, are in poverty, compared to 11.7 percent under the traditional measure. Many of the additional poor are low-income, working people with transportation and child-care costs.

    _Child poverty is lower, at about 17.9 percent, or roughly 13.3 million, compared to 19 percent under the traditional measure. That's because single mothers and their children disproportionately receive non-cash aid such as food stamps.

    _Poverty rates were higher for non-Hispanic whites (11 percent), Asians (17 percent) and Hispanics (29 percent) when compared to the traditional measure. For blacks, poverty remained flat at 24.7 percent, due to the cushioning effect of non-cash aid.

    _The Northeast and West saw bigger jumps in poverty, due largely to cities with higher costs of living such as New York, Boston, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

    The Census Bureau said it expedited release of the alternative numbers for this month because of the interest expressed by lawmakers and the Obama administration in seeing a fuller range of numbers. Legislation pending in Congress would mandate a switch to the revised formula, although the White House could choose to act on its own.

    Arloc Sherman, a senior researcher at the nonprofit Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, said that because the revised formula factors in non-cash government aid, the amount of increase in poverty from 2007 to 2008 was generally smaller compared to the current measure.

    "Food stamp participation rose during the first year of recession and appears to have softened what could have been an even greater increase in financial hardship," he said.

    Sherman said the revised formula could take on greater importance in measuring poverty for 2009 as more Americans take advantage of tax credits and food stamps under the federal stimulus program. Food stamp assistance currently is at an all-time high of about 36 million.
    Different Measurements of Poverty

    I think the revised calculation of American poverty is more accurate than the traditional method because the revised method includes greater number of people who work on minimum wage or wage that is only a little higher than minimum wage.
    Last edited by MrFun; October 20, 2009, 11:28.
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    **** you Mr Fun! Sorry, obligatory.
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    • #3
      You're not my type.
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      • #4
        Many of those people living in poverty have no one but themselves to blame.

        Also, the quicker these people die off, the more the rest of us save in terms of having to pay for their health care, etc.
        Last edited by David Floyd; October 20, 2009, 19:02. Reason: clarity
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        • #5
          Wow I feel dumber for having read that article.

          What's the poverty line in the US? Yearly income? How many big screen tvs are you allowed to own?
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          • #6
            1 $10,830
            2 $14,570
            3 $18,310
            4 $22,050
            5 $25,790

            NM, I found it. Would be great if the reporter reported it....
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            • #7
              Originally posted by David Floyd View Post
              Many of those people living in poverty have no one but themselves to blame.

              Also, the quicker these people die off, the more the rest of us save in terms of having to pay for their health care, etc.
              How many big screen tvs are you allowed to own?
              Compassionate conservatism at its finest.

              Conservative exude hatred towards poor people, towards racial minorities and towards gays. And then they wonder why they lose elections. I know, it's all Obama's fault...because he is loved by the media.

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              • #8
                I never said I was a Compassionate Conservative, idiot

                I am anything but compassionate as you should well know. And by the way, I have nothing against gays. I really don't dislike minorities either, except insofar as they whine too much and commit more crime (both of which lead to more minority poverty, duh).
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                • #9
                  Compassionate conservatism at its finest.
                  So you don't mind spending other people's money, for 'compassionate' social programs?

                  Conservative exude hatred towards poor people, towards racial minorities and towards gays. And then they wonder why they lose elections. I know, it's all Obama's fault...because he is loved by the media.
                  Let's play a game. I call it "compare annual incomes." You first Zkribbler.

                  You are right that I hate poverty. That's why I want to give people opportunity so they can be rich just like you.
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                  • #10
                    BK, let's just be honest. You don't like blacks and Mexicans any more than I do. Yes?
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                    • #11
                      BK, let's just be honest. You don't like blacks and Mexicans any more than I do. Yes?


                      Honestly?

                      I think Mexican ladies are totally hot and sexy. If I could have my pick, I'd prefer a nice Catholic Mexican chick to any Canadian gal.

                      You're on your own here DF.
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                      • #12
                        Nice Catholic Mexican chick = born pregnant. You'll have 7 kids and a 290 pound wife in no time. ****, at least white Canadian women believe in and have access to abortion. Or alternatively..."It takes the RU-486 or it gets the rusty coat hanger."
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                        • #13
                          Nice Catholic Mexican chick = born pregnant. You'll have 7 kids and a 290 pound wife in no time.
                          And that's a bad thing?

                          ****, at least white Canadian women believe in and have access to abortion. Or alternatively..."It takes the RU-486 or it gets the rusty coat hanger."
                          Why don't you just give me your American citizenship and we'll swap? You can have all the white Canadian chicks you can handle. Seriously, you just don't appreciate the benefits of your area.
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                          • #14
                            You don't think a 290 pound wife is a bad thing?? Not to mention the 7 kids?? Well, OK.

                            And seeing as how you haven't engaged in a...fully adult relationship...I'd wager that I'd have more fun w/ a white Canadian chick than you would have with a 290 pound Mexican after she had 7 kids. Trust me on this one buddy.
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                            • #15
                              Can we erase DF's and BK's posts and start over?
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