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  • #31
    Yeah. Real slaves are provided with free food and free housing.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
      Keep in mind that when che says "literally," he means "kind of similar to."
      Compulsory work without compensation is considered slavery in the U.S. Slaves do not actually have to be owned.
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      • #33
        Actually, it's considered involuntary servitude. Slaves do have to be owned.

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        • #34
          The difference between a slave and an unpaid worker is that the worker can walk away without risk of recapture. Like Kuci said, ownership is the distinction.
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • #35
            It's true.
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            • #36
              Update?
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              • #37
                It's urgent.
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                • #38
                  I had one boss who did the same in the bindery I used to work at. We would all clock in, and find that they would alter our clock stamps. People were seriously annoyed at the clock, because that meant we all had to wait behind each other to clock out assembly line, rather than simply leaving and writing down the time.

                  I had another boss, who founded his whole company based on labour violations. He had a pool of drivers that were all considered 'independent contractors' even though we didn't have control over when we worked. We all had standard shifts, but as independent contractors, he saved a mint in taxes. He's out of business now.

                  Seriously, don't enforce this on your underlings. He's doing this for productivity bonuses with his department.
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                  • #39
                    Btw, since no one has mentioned this yet, you should blow the whistle ASAP since by not doing so you become complicit with said activity and can be charged by your underlings. And don't think the guys upstairs wouldn't think twice to make you the fall guy. They may also do this if you complain to management so head to the feds now.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                      Compulsory work without compensation is considered slavery in the U.S. Slaves do not actually have to be owned.


                      C'mon Join right in ............ I know you want to

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                      "I never died" said he."
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                      • #41
                        Seriously though, management bull**** like this is what keeps the corrupt unions going. That, and the kickbacks from their tame politicians.
                        Last edited by SpencerH; September 16, 2009, 22:40.
                        We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                        If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                        Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SpencerH View Post
                          Seriously though, management bull**** like this is what keeps the corrupt unions going.
                          True. The best union in the world could never attract members by itself. It's oppressive tactics by managment which drives workers to join unions.

                          That, and the kickbacks from their tame politicians.
                          Tame politicians do not give kickbacks. They get campaign contributions.

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                          • #43
                            You think they give nothing back in return for the union contributions? Sen Rockefeller just 'axed' the dems health bill. Why? Because union members stand to lose the most from taxes to their high priced 'cadillac health plans.
                            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                            • #44
                              "cadillac health plans" Wazzat??? A health plan that actually delivers health care?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                                Actually, it's considered involuntary servitude. Slaves do have to be owned.
                                That whole in the U.S. part seems to have escaped you. Ownership is a legal category, and since humans cannot be owned in the U.S., but you can still go to jail for slavery . . .

                                Originally posted by SpencerH View Post
                                You think they give nothing back in return for the union contributions?
                                Pretty much, which is why so many pro labor activists are depressed over the unions continued slavishness to the Democratic Party.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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