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  • GOP Own-Goal part eighty billion

    Didn't see a thread on this yet, so I thought I'd start one.



    Full text for the click-phobic:

    Bob McDonnell, Culture Warrior
    At 34, the GOP candidate for governor disapproved of fornicators, homosexuals and working women.
    Tuesday, September 1, 2009

    ON MORE THAN one occasion, Robert F. McDonnell, the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia, has offered a soporific description of his graduate school dissertation as a "thesis on welfare policy." This is false.

    In fact, Mr. McDonnell's study, written in 1989 at age 34 in support of his master's degree in public policy and degree in law, is a full-throated attack on liberals, modernity, the Great Society and inheritance taxes, among other supposed ills, which he linked to and blamed for homosexuality, declining morality and the degradation of the traditional family, along with the proliferation of pornography, out-of-wedlock sex, day care, birth control, pregnant teenagers, divorce, single mothers, working women and feminists.

    The thesis is a wistful ode to a bygone 1950s America, when, Mr. McDonnell noted, 70 percent of American families were led by working fathers and homemaker mothers, and "every state in the union made sexual intercourse between unmarried persons a crime." Sounding at times like an Old Testament prophet, Mr. McDonnell wrote that government must discriminate in favor of married couples and against "cohabitators, homosexuals or fornicators," for "[t]he cost of sin should fall on the sinner not the taxpayer."

    A deeply researched, passionately written manifesto, the thesis posits a detailed Republican strategy to roll back the evils that Mr. McDonnell saw as afflicting American society generally and the family in particular. On the eve of his political career, Mr. McDonnell was a committed and convinced culture warrior of the right.

    Mindful of Virginia's middle-of-the-road electorate, Mr. McDonnell has done his best since running for attorney general in 2005, and especially in the current campaign, to rebrand himself as a moderate willing to work with Democrats. He has cooled his rhetoric, criticized the Bush administration and bristled at questions about his decision to attend graduate school at what was then known as CBN University, the school founded by Pat Robertson (a leading donor to Mr. McDonnell) and named for his Christian Broadcasting Network. When The Post's Amy Gardner obtained his thesis recently and questioned him about it, he dismissed the paper as "an academic exercise."
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    More substantively, Mr. McDonnell said his thinking has evolved, citing, among other examples, his support for child day care in a 1995 welfare-reform bill. He said that government should not discriminate against homosexuals (though he backed Virginia's constitutional amendment effectively banning same-sex marriage) or prohibit contraceptives (though as a lawmaker he voted often to oppose government-sponsored access to and information about birth control). And he offered his own working wife and daughters, as well as the women he has hired as a candidate and in office, as evidence of his shift on women in the workforce.

    Nonetheless, in his 14 years in the state's General Assembly, Mr. McDonnell did aggressively pursue a socially conservative agenda largely in line with his thesis. As governor he could do the same, although he would be constrained by a legislature at least partly controlled by Democrats. He could not ban abortion and contraception, but he could help restrict access. The Bob McDonnell who wrote that thesis would make a divisive, disruptive and partisan governor -- a sharp departure from the tradition of generally pragmatic executives who have helped make Virginia one of the better-managed states in the union. Virginians deserve specific answers about where the thinking of his early middle age has shifted, and where it remains consistent.
    SUMMARY for the tldr crowd: Virginia's gubernatorial candidate from the GOP once wrote a bloody master's thesis setting out a detailed plan for the party to, in effect, turn the clock on society in this country back to 1956.

    AAHZ-SUMMARY: LOL that cat has a funny caption under it!

    The funny part is, this ass actually brought the paper up in the first place. If he hadn't mentioned it in passing to a reporter, he'd be just another boring political candidate. So: do you think this should count against him? Bearing in mind that this was written twenty years ago, and we all go through an Archie Bunker phase in our early thirties or thereabouts...
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  • #2
    It was 20 years ago. While you can't totally disregard it, I also think you can't claim that it is his current belief.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • #3
      I wanna see Obama's thesis.
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      • #4
        Age 34 is pretty far along for this to be youthful exuberance. This was 1989! 40 % of adult females were already in the workforce. The man's a troglydite! On the other hand, getting his Master's at Liberty here in Virginia should have clued us in. That was the school Jerry Falwell ran.

        Obama's "thesis,:" if you will, is on a relatively obscure point of Constitutional Law. It is now regarded as definitive, but iit's really obscure, as are most such papers at the Ivy League Law Schools. It's summarized in the Harvard Law Review. Earlier he had been the editor of that Law Review, a highly prestigious post.
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        • #5
          Obama's "thesis,:" if you will, is on a relatively obscure point of Constitutional Law.
          As in non-existant? I still want to see it.

          It is now regarded as definitive, but it's really obscure, as are most such papers at the Ivy League Law Schools.
          Which is why he won't release it.

          It's summarized in the Harvard Law Review. Earlier he had been the editor of that Law Review, a highly prestigious post.
          I'm not even sure he wrote a thesis. How can you be sure? If you've read it, pass it on to me.
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          • #6
            If you want to read it, pay for access to an online library and read it.

            And we are sure that he wrote his thesis because Harvard said he wrotehis thesis.

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            • #7
              I doubt Ben would understand it anyway, despite pretending to be an expert about it afterwards.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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              • #8
                Ben wouldn't be the only person to provide an irrelevant review, but he'd be the first negative one. McDonnell's misfortune is that he was studying to be a minister. Preachers are expected to express opinions on family life and such. Lawyers talk about the law. Also McDonnell is running against a fellow named Creigh (pronounced Cree) Deeds. Don't know if that guy has a thesis. If he does I'd like to see that one too. Unlike Ben, I have a vote in Mr. McDonnell's battle with Mr. Deeds.
                No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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                • #9
                  And we are sure that he wrote his thesis because Harvard said he wrote his thesis.
                  That's a second hand source...
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                  • #10
                    Ben wouldn't be the only person to provide an irrelevant review, but he'd be the first negative one.
                    So no one has had a negative review? Man, how is the unicorn that you are riding?
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                    • #11
                      Hmm, he's had sex before so I doubt it's a unicorn.

                      I'm sure if there was anything really bad in it, we would have heard about it in the campaign.
                      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • #12
                        I haven't seen the dissertations of the great majority of those calling themselves "Dr." in my field, but I believe they exist. When a book includes a bibliography, I believe all those other books are real, although only a few will be of interest. I think it is safe to take Harvard's word for the existance of the artifacts related to its graduation process.

                        OTOH, when some dipwad claiming to be Ben expresses surprise that Obama received no negative reviews he reveals how disconnected he really is. A Master's thesis is reviewed by a panel of professors (I am NOT going into how selected) who critique and assist the author. When all APPROVE, then the thesis is accepted and stored wherever. At Harvard, the student must write a summary also approved by his thesis board. Thus, no negative reviews would be expected leading to my joke Ben would be the first.

                        McDonnell's thesis is beginning to hit the internet. Would the real Ben do a quick review and offer defense? That would be useful.
                        No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                        "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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                        • #13
                          I'm sure if there was anything really bad in it, we would have heard about it in the campaign.
                          Was this before or after the executive order forbidding it's release?
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                          • #14
                            when some dipwad claiming to be Ben expresses surprise that Obama received no negative reviews he reveals how disconnected he really is.
                            Uh, and you assume I don't know how it works? Look, I've edited several theses to prepare them for publication. You stated reviews, and that to me means wider then simply the panel selected. If you had meant only the panellists, then the fact that they critique and edit the theses is in a sense a negative review, unless it was done perfectly the first time.

                            McDonnell's thesis is beginning to hit the internet. Would the real Ben do a quick review and offer defense? That would be useful.
                            Sure. PM it to me and I'll have a go.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                            • #15
                              Where's loinburger's master's thesis??? Oh that's right, nobody gives a damn about master's theses.
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