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    Obama cuts pay raises for federal workers

    President Barack Obama is cutting federal employees’ pay increases next year because of the budget deficit.

    In an Aug. 31 letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Obama said he would use his power to reduce the federal employee pay raise set for January 2010 from 2.4 percent to 2.0 percent.

    “The growth in federal requirements is straining the federal budget,” wrote Obama. His letter said a 2.4 percent increase would cost $19.9 billion more than the 2 percent increase he proposed in his 2010 budget.

    The Congressional Budget Office last week set the fiscal year deficit at $1.6 trillion, the highest deficit ever in the post-World War II era. The Office of Management and Budget estimated the 10-year deficit to 2019 had expanded from $7 trillion to $9 trillion.

    Republicans have hammered Obama and congressional Democrats over the size of the budget deficit, and have used it to argue the national cannot afford healthcare reform. Democrats say their healthcare legislation will reduce costs and improve the country’s fiscal health in the long run.

    The president can impose a new pay plan if he views the raises that would otherwise take place as being inappropriate because of a national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare.”

    Obama noted the 9.5 percent unemployment rate in June, and wrote that, “few would disagree that our country is facing serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare.”

    In addition to citing the national unemployment rate, which dipped to 9.4 percent in July, Obama said his decision was also based on the state of emergency the nation continues to endure following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    Obama said he did not believe the change in the planned raises would hurt the government’s ability to recruit and retain well-qualified employees. He is required to make that determination under law.

    House members from districts full of federal employees have called on the White House in future years to provide the same increases to civilian federal employees that it seeks to give to members of the military. The 2010 budget passed by Congress follows Obama's proposal to increase military pay by 2.9 percent and federal civilian pay by 2 percent.




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    Unemployment is high so someone will still take these jobs. Oh, and screwing Drake.
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    • #3
      You act as though any schlub off the street can perform these jobs. That's not the case. You, for example, are grossly unqualified to perform my job should I choose to bolt to the private sector.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post

        I haven't even started work yet and I'm already getting ****ed in the ass...
        I thought that you liked it that way, so why complain ?
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        • #5
          Quit your whining.



          The Bureau of Economic Analysis has released its annual data on compensation levels by industry. The data show that the pay advantage enjoyed by federal civilian workers over private-sector workers continues to expand.

          The George W. Bush years were very lucrative for federal workers. In 2000, the average compensation (wages and benefits) of federal workers was 66 percent higher than the average compensation in the U.S. private sector. The new data show that average federal compensation is now more than double the average in the private sector.

          Figure 1 looks at average wages. In 2008, the average wage for 1.9 million federal civilian workers was $79,197, which compared to an average $49,935 for the nation’s 108 million private sector workers (measured in full-time equivalents). The figure shows that the federal pay advantage (the gap between the lines) is steadily increasing.
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          • #6
            Those statistics are meaningless if they don't account for differences in education levels.
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            • #7
              If the Prez can dictate the size of your raise, it sounds like you guys need a union.

              [It's okay, really. Most of the members of my local are conservative Republicans.]


              Those statistics are meaningless if they don't account for differences in education levels.
              True. We've shipped most of our high-paying manufacturing jobs to China. So, if you're now comparing McDonald's burgerflippers to government accountants, of course there will be a difference.

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              • #8
                Only in pay, not in skills.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                  You act as though any schlub off the street can perform these jobs. That's not the case. You, for example, are grossly unqualified to perform my job should I choose to bolt to the private sector.
                  You couldn't even get an interview in the industry I work in.
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                  • #10
                    I probably could, but I don't know why I'd want to...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                      Those statistics are meaningless if they don't account for differences in education levels.
                      Just about as meaningless if they do, unless area and institution of study are also included.
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                      • #12
                        Seriously? A 2% raise is a pay cut?
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                        • #13
                          Man, Drake works for the Feds?

                          What are you doing getting a paycheque from the big O?
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                          • #14
                            Seriously? A 2% raise is a pay cut?


                            If you've already been promised more, then yes.
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                            • #15
                              Stop whining. Wife just finished 4 months of 5% furloughs (and might have to do more). Luckily, she was also given a 17% raise this year.

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