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  • #31
    Is that a star of david she's got in her hair???? Banana Hitler is gonna be pissed now...
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      • #33
        Originally posted by loinburger View Post
        Is that a star of david she's got in her hair???? Banana Hitler is gonna be pissed now...
        Dammit, it's finnish
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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        • #34
          She's not cute.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
            She's not cute.
            Are you ?
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
              Dammit, it's finnish
              A finnish jew?
              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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              • #37
                I am lost, how many different directions can 1 thread go? We have hot romanian girls in some posts, blonds in others, evolution, religion, bashing, holy **** where else can we go with this? Should we talk about the impending zombie invasion as well? Or maybe the reasoning behind why people love jello shots? Or possibly we can discuss beer pairing with food, that is a great subject.
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                • #38
                  My bro's wife has the zombie survival guide. I read it, so I feel pretty safe wrt any pending zombie assault.
                  I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                  I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                  • #39
                    Last edited by Space05us; July 13, 2009, 00:45. Reason: I do what I want.

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                    • #40
                      Yea, the zombie survival guide was my bathroom reading for like....maybe 2 sittings...it is a very entertaining book.
                      "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Blood of Patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                        No offense, but I prefer



                        That's because you're a homosexual too.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          My first year at university, I had to study Darwin seriously for the first time. I was looking forward to it, until I got to the point in the Descent of Man, where he argues that society tolerates 'disabled' people because society is weak. He made the argument that people with disabilities were inferior due to their genetic code.

                          Basically two options, agree with Darwin, or ditch Darwin for something else.

                          Why not go with neo Darwinism, that allows for the fact that survival of the fittest can apply to groups (or even whole species) as well as individuals?

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                          • #43
                            Technology and society must be considered parts of the environment. Therefore, if technology or society allows a crippled person to reproduce as successfully as a non-crippled, then they are considered equally fit. Under Ben's Darwinistic theory, people shouldn't receive medical treatment because it is just spreading "weak" genes. However, if you consider medicine to be part of the environment, then sick people at most equally fit and their genes shouldn't be considered "weak." For example. sickle cell anemia, in an environment without malaria, it is an undesirable genotype and someone expressing the phenotype would be considered less fit or "weak." However, is subsahara Africa where malaria is present, the genotype is desirable. The presence or absence of malaria is the result of different environment which alter the definitions of fitness. This is the case for everything except deafness, which is just freaky.
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                            • #44
                              Why not go with neo Darwinism, that allows for the fact that survival of the fittest can apply to groups (or even whole species) as well as individuals?
                              Same issue. If we are gaging worth and value of persons based on their 'fitness', then how can you justify society expending effort to preserve disabled people? By definition, you are stating that disabled people are not as fit as others.
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                              • #45
                                Technology and society must be considered parts of the environment.
                                Darwin argues that it is counterproductive for society to invest money for disabled people when it can direct the same resources to the preservation of fitter individuals. He complains that society has not progressed to the point where they are willing to abandon disabled people, and so we must put up with it until people come to the correct understanding.

                                Under Ben's Darwinistic theory, people shouldn't receive medical treatment because it is just spreading "weak" genes.
                                It's not my theory, it's Darwin's. He would put it all based on genetics. Disabled people cannot take the front of the line wrt to medical care, they would have to come after someone who is ablebodied.

                                For example. sickle cell anemia, in an environment without malaria, it is an undesirable genotype and someone expressing the phenotype would be considered less fit or "weak." However, is subsahara Africa where malaria is present, the genotype is desirable. The presence or absence of malaria is the result of different environment which alter the definitions of fitness.
                                This is a far better argument. However, the consequence of such a statement would operate in a laissez-faire sense. We cannot intervene to preserve disabled people or anyone for that matter, because it would be promoting unfitness.
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