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    Thanks again for the piece of crap known as NAFTA, Big Bill; and be sure to have a happy flight.

    There are more than 100,000 American aircraft mechanics who are out of work or who have left the business.

    But aircraft repair is flourishing in the United States for mechanics from Mexico, who can enter the country through a loophole in the NAFTA trade agreement.

    The loophole is called a TN visa, and it’s big enough to drive an airliner through.

    News 8 has discovered more than 100,000 mechanics from Mexico have been recruited by San Antonio Aerospace (SAA) at a time the company is laying off higher wage American workers.

    The workers are being brought in as “scientific technicians.” Although that part of the NAFTA agreement was designed to allow professionals, such as doctors and lawyers from Canada and Mexico, work in the United States, the law also permits people who are “licensed” to enter the country.

    “If they’re licensed in Mexico, and if they’re a licensed mechanic, it’s possible that they could be considered a ‘professional,'” said Michelle Scopellite, a Dallas immigration attorney.

    Documents obtained by News 8 from some of the Mexican mechanics who received TN visas do not indicate they were licensed anywhere. They show the workers may have gone to aircraft repair school in Mexico. The FAA does not recognize foreign aircraft repair licenses. To get into the United States, however, a mechanic must only convince an officer from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) that his paperwork means that he is a professional.

    "In immigration there are several loopholes because of the way an application is drafted it’s up to the officer’s discretion," Scopellite said.

    The FAA does not require an aircraft mechanic to be certified in the U.S. to work on an airplane. It only requires that a U.S. certified mechanic sign off that the repairs done by others had been done correctly.

    The problem with many Mexican mechanics is not necessarily their skill level, but that they don’t speak or read English. They can’t read the repair manuals that are in English, or communicate with the supervisors who have to sign off on their work.

    “I would work with these guys sometimes and I was assigned a couple of mechanics,” said one certified American mechanic who used to work for SAA. “I would help them out. But, when it came to critical issues such as operation of flight control and systems and radio correspondence, I would refuse.”

    The former employee said the Mexican mechanics were working on structural repairs, as well as complex electronics inside aircraft belonging to Delta Airlines and UPS at SAA.

    Former NTSB member John Googlia said having 100 non-English speaking mechanics working in a shop would be unacceptable.

    "That many people who can’t read or write or understand English is disruptive,” he said.

    Googlia himself is a certified mechanic.

    “The normal work flow is going to be disrupted because you can’t communicate with them," he said. "So, yes, that is a safety issue. And, where is the FAA?”

    For the last several months, SAA has been laying off American mechanics. At the same time, SAA president Moh Loong LOH told the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce last week that his company “faces a shortage of skilled workers,” according to the San Antonio Express News .

    In a written statement, LOH told News 8 his company is “an equal opportunity employer.” He did not respond to questions about foreign workers.

    Immigration attorney Scopellite said once an aircraft worker comes into the United states, his visa could be renewed for three year periods an unlimited amount of times. And, if U.S. authorities were not notified, “somebody could come in working for one person and USCIS and the Department of State would have no clue.”

    She said she is in no position to know whether the process represents a threat to national security.

    “I’ve had people call me and tell me they’ve gotten in here without fully disclosing their credentials," she said.

    The government granted 88,000 TN visas last year, according to USCIS. It does not track how many went to aircraft mechanics. But, the number of TNs is expanding, and there is no limit to how many can be issued.

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    • #3
      DaShi, did you read? Can you comprehend? Try this one part.

      The problem with many Mexican mechanics is not necessarily their skill level, but that they don’t speak or read English.They can’t read the repair manuals that are in English, or communicate with the supervisors who have to sign off on their work.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        The problem with many Mexican mechanics is not necessarily their skill level, but that they don’t speak or read English.They can’t read the repair manuals that are in English, or communicate with the supervisors who have to sign off on their work.


        Being as how I used to edit these manuals, I can tell you that it's not just illiterate Mexicans who can't read them. Oy vey.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
          DaShi, did you read? Can you comprehend? Try this one part.
          Why should I read something from that site?
          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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            Reducing air travel costs
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            • #7
              FWIW, Sloww, this is a piece of **** article.

              The TN visa does far more than allow people from Canada and Mexico to work on the US on aircraft repair.

              A ****load of my colleagues had TN visas so they could travel back and forth between New York and Toronto and work for American companies. They had specialist skills that weren't found locally, so they had to be imported.

              TN Visas are a Good Thing and help your country from becoming a technological backwater.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                Why should I read something from that site?
                From what site?
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                • #9
                  I have no idea why the TN visa is called a "loophole". It's doing what it was designed to do.

                  And if the mechanics' poor grasp of English was a problem then the company wouldn't want to hire them.

                  Basically, it's an article about native aircraft mechanics trying to stifle competition through fearmongering, ensuring themselves higher wages.
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                  • #10
                    Free movement of people, goods, and capital.
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                    • #11
                      Sounds great.

                      At least for the US.

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                      • #12
                        Oerdin, STFU. You're so damned stupid. That comment of yours has zilch to do with the thread.

                        Asher, you think what you want. If there was a poll conducted in the US, Canada and Mexico I think, personal belief, the majority would say NAFTA isn't working.

                        DaShi, you quaint fool. American Airlines is based in Dallas. The article is from Dallas news.
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                        • #13
                          And it only took you 12 posts. Can't wait for your next article.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                            Asher, you think what you want. If there was a poll conducted in the US, Canada and Mexico I think, personal belief, the majority would say NAFTA isn't working.
                            Nope



                            Public opinion in Mexico, Canada and the United States tends to be positive toward NAFTA and the prospect of widening free trade across the hemisphere. A survey conducted in July 2004 by CIDE and COMEXI in Mexico found that 64 percent of the Mexican public favored NAFTA, and 62 percent also supported a possible Free Trade Agreement of the Americas stretching from Canada to Chile.

                            Canadian opinion, reported in a June 2003 Ipsos Reid survey, found that a clear majority (70%) of Canadians supported NAFTA, while only 26 percent were opposed.

                            The Program on International Policy Attitudes reported in a January 2004 poll that a plurality of 47 percent of Americans felt that NAFTA has been good for the United States, while 39 percent felt that it had been bad. A Chicago Council on Foreign Relations (CCFR) poll carried out in July 2004 found that 59 percent of Americans favored the United States entering a prospective FTAA.
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                            • #15
                              NAFTA

                              The part of NAFTA that allows this

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