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  • #16
    It is probably the part of NAFTA that is working the best.

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    • #17
      Oerdin, STFU. You're so damned stupid. That comment of yours has zilch to do with the thread.


      Oddly enough, Slowwy, Oerdin's comment is on point.

      This is one of the impacts of free(ish) trade. It has benifits and drawbacks. The idea is that the net of the two is positive for the US. I won't bother arguing with you - you think it's negative. Fine. Vote for protectists, I guess.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Arrian View Post
        Fine. Vote for protectists, I guess.
        I somehow doubt that he voted for Obama even with his stance on NAFTA.
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        • #19
          No one said protectionists were very bright.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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          • #20
            Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
            I somehow doubt that he voted for Obama even with his stance on NAFTA.


            Open support for Nafta and all trade agreements based on Nafta?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
              Oerdin, STFU. You're so damned stupid. That comment of yours has zilch to do with the thread.
              How is that, you miserably dull person?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Whoha View Post
                Open support for Nafta and all trade agreements based on Nafta?
                Like I said Sloww missed his chance to vote for the anti-NAFTA pol.
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                Mexico assigned tariffs to numerous U.S. exports in a public protest to the decision by U.S. President Obama and Democratic lawmakers to end a test program that allowed Mexican truckers access to U.S. roads. The move ultimately threatens NAFTA.
                Just a year ago, before Senator Obama was certain to become President Obama, there was a notable rift in Ohio between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. The issue was which Democratic candidate had the greater disdain for NAFTA. NPR's All Things Considered on February 26, 2008 summarized it well:

                "Illinois Sen. Barack Obama wants to make something clear: When it comes to hating NAFTA — the North American Free Trade Agreement — he's way out in front of his rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.
                'Sen. Clinton, as part of the Clinton administration, supported NAFTA,' Obama says. 'In her book, she called it one of the administration's successes.'
                The very suggestion that she might like NAFTA made Clinton furious.
                'This is wrong," Clinton says. 'And every Democrat should be outraged. So shame on you, Barack Obama.'


                Now that the two are on the same team, they are facing the real-life fallout of that mutual disdain.

                The Mexican government assigned tariffs to 90 U.S. companies - in direct correlation to the decision by congressional Democrats and President Obama to cancel a pilot program that allowed Mexican trucks to transport goods throughout the U.S.

                The Wall Street Journal reacted with an editorial, The Teamsters War, that drove home the total dollar impact nationwide:


                President Obama often campaigned as a trade warrior, and now he's getting his wish. Mexico announced yesterday that it will raise tariffs on 90 U.S. products, affecting some $2.4 billion in goods across 40 states...By rejecting the Mexican trucks, the Administration violated the North American Free Trade Agreement and picked a needless fight with a good neighbor.


                According to the foreign trade statistics from the U.S. Census Bureau, Mexico represents a fertile ground for U.S. exports - and one that has been growing significantly over the past 5 years. From 2004 through 2008, total U.S. exports to Mexico have grown by $41 billion - from $111 billion in 2004 to $152 billion in 2008.

                While rising economic fears in the U.S. are fostering protectionist thinking and policies, the benefits of trading with Mexico - and of keeping the entirety of NAFTA intact - seem to far outweigh the concerns of the Teamsters Union, whose leaders cited safety for American drivers as the central issue behind the U.S. rejection of the test program.

                The Teamsters Union is an organization that is not responsible for establishing highway safety. Those decisions are left to state legislatures.
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                • #23
                  You missed the part in bold at the top of that when you quoted it. It read 'OPINION'

                  Barack backed down on his NAFTA stuff before the election. FYI.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • #24
                    You might have missed the date of that editorial in your zeal to reply to me.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                      You might have missed the date of that article in your zeal to reply to me.
                      Wasn't an article, was an op-ed piece. Date doesn't matter.

                      That 'article' was as worthless as the sum of your contributions to this forum in the past 5 years.
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                      • #26
                        I had this problem when I worked in pharmaceuticals. CFR stipulates that all operation documentation must be understood by those performing the work. It also mandates that the document accompany those performing the work and that they make records in real time. My problem was that these CFRs could not be followed by the night cleaning crew since our SOPs and manufacturing documents were not in Spanish, which all those crews spoke. It would require that facilities translate all their documentation and have a validation personnel and quality personnel approve of those documents, the quality and validation people would therefore need to speak and read Spanish.

                        They didn't like my view on this. Regulatory, however, did.

                        Anyway, I'm sure there are similar CFRs guiding the FAA.
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                        • #27
                          Other articles by the douchebag who wrote that op-ed piece DD calls an "article" include:

                          "Obama Gitmo blunder creates new Bermuda triangulation"
                          "Obama to tax business cellphone use, move affects millions"
                          "Defiant Israeli settlers build 'Obama huts' in West Bank"
                          "Despite Obama speech, Iran says U.S. deeply hated in region"
                          "Cap and trade Democrats: pass it now, explain it later"
                          "Obama's policies are affecting the affluent voters who chose him"
                          "Opinion: Obama refuses to release Air Force One pictures taken over NYC"
                          "Obama Fails to Secure European Troops for Afghanistan"

                          I wonder where this man's biases lie?
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            Date doesn't matter.
                            If he backed off his anti-Free Trade stance after the election as you suggest, why is he engaging in anti-free trade moves after the election?
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              If he backed off his anti-Free Trade stance after the election as you suggest, why is he engaging in anti-free trade moves after the election?
                              Provide some actual objective links to the Mexican truck deal your tabloid op-ed piece briefly mentioned inbetween fearmongering and hysteria. Then we can discuss this.
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                              • #30
                                What is this, DD?

                                One day after signing the $410 billion omnibus funding bill into law, along with provisions ending the Department of Transportation's Mexican truck demonstration project, the Obama administration has announced intentions to restart the program as soon as possible.

                                The Obama administration's determination to see Mexican long-haul rigs roll throughout the U.S. is a setback for labor unions, including the Teamsters, who supported Obama in the 2008 presidential election, in part on his promise to renegotiate NAFTA to preserve U.S. jobs.


                                Protectionist my ass.
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