Are you better then the Governator?

[Ben Kenobi]

That would never pass in a million years especially since anyone trying to sell off the public community colleges would get sued to death. That's a complete nonstarter.

Seeing how much it costs California, it's an easy cut.

Let them go private.

[Kuciwalker]

You're violating "The Deal." For decades, government workers have worked at less than market rate, with no chance of ever getting rich or even bonuses. In exchange, "The Deal" is that they get pensions and health care.

And it's a terrible deal for the government. It results in armies of low-skill workers with high job security uncorrelated with performance and a very VERY high incentive to keep their budgets regardless of the actual value of their work.

[KrazyHorse]

I hate public sector workers. Including cops and firemen. And especially teachers.

[Dinner]

Im a little confused on Community Colleges

They are run by the State, shouldnt they have the cost of classes pay for the teachers?

In order that anyone who wants to improve their education can afford to do so community colleges are heavily subsidized.

[Zkribbler]

Just a reminder, kiddies. Before Reagan was elected governor, California had the top-rated public university system in the country...and there was no tuition for California residents.

[Kuciwalker]

Um, isn't it STILL the top-rated public university system in the country? Aren't UVA, UMich, maybe UIUC in some fields the only 2-3 state schools that come close to Berkeley?

[KrazyHorse]

UIUC and UT are both comparable to UCB in physics. UCSB as well. Michigan is a lot further down, as is UVA. UWisc is much higher than either of these.

[Kuciwalker]

Oh yeah, forgot UT, for some stuff at least.

[Kuciwalker]

Top 4 public universities according to USNWR:

Berkeley
UVA
UCLA
UMich

And all of the UCs are in the top 15.

[Jon Miller]

UMD at least use to be up there too.

But yeah, the Cali public universities are very good.

JM