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  • Governments should not allow men to become Catholic Priests

    One poster here claims governments shouldn't allow gays to get married because of some BS stats that it is less healthy than straight marriages.
    Well what about this... With the Aids rating soring among Chatholic priests, maybe the Government should start regulating this as well...

    Catholic priest's AIDs rate soars


    Article by Judy L. Thomas, Knight Ridder Newspapers published in The Arizona Republic

    Some blame lack of training by the church.

    Hundreds of Roman Catholic priests across the U.S. are dying from AIDs or living with HIV.

    It appears priests are dying of AIDS at a rate at least four times that of the general U.S. population.

    The deaths are of such concern to the church that most dioceses and religious orders now require applicants for the priesthood to take an HIV-antibody test before their ordination.

    In a survey of 3000 priests, most said the church failed to offer an early and effective sexual education that might have prevented infection in the first place. Three of four said the church needed to offer more education about sexual issues.

    Many priests and behavioral experts argue that the church’s adherence to 12th-century doctrine about the virtues of celibacy and its teachings on homosexuality have contributed to the spread of AIDS within the clergy. The church has kept priests uneducated about the reality of a sexual world.

    Moreover, by treating homosexual acts as an abomination and the breaking of celibacy vows as shameful, the church has scared priests into silence.

    Through the years, the issue of AIDS deaths among priests has been so sensitive that many kept their illnesses a secret.

    To the surprise of researchers 801 priests responded to a survey of AIDS – a response rate of 27%. Nearly 60% said they personally knew at last one priest who had died of AIDS. And one in three said they knew priests who were living with HIV or AIDS.

    The Rev. Tom Casey, an Augustinian priest from the Boston area, said the church bears some of the blame for AIDS deaths. “They have created a tremendous amount of homophobia,” Casey said.

    “Gays are in the priesthood, and not all of them are celibate. Both of these issues are explosive that superiors and bishops don’t want to deal with publicly”, said Robert Goss, a former Jesuit priest.

    Experts say the incidence of AIDS among priest’s stems primarily from sexual contact.

    As long ago as the early 1980’s, the Rev John Keenan found that Catholic priests were contracting AIDS at an alarming rate.

    “We looked at what was happening in the gay Catholic population, and there was a lot of concern about the epidemic proportions of HIV”, said Keenan, who runs an outpatient clinic in Chicago for priests.

    Keenan now runs weekly support sessions for infected priests. He believes most priests with AIDS contracted the disease through same-sex relations. He said he treated one priest who had infected eight other priests.

    Charlie Isola, a New York City social worker and psychotherapist, said all the priests that had AIDS that he has treated are gay men in their 40s to early 60s who became infected through same-sex relations.

    But the church tries to argue they could have been infected before they became priests. Some argue that failing to address the issue how the priests were infected shows that the church is in denial about the issue…the church just doesn’t want to admit it.
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    It's a health issue!!
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      So the Catholic church should simply defrock any priest who is found to be HIV positive? Deal.

      In comparison, 45 percent of all new HIV infections are in gay men alone.

      I don't see how this is a winning issue for you Ming.
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      • #4
        This is why you don't talk to Ben, Ming. The constant not getting the point... either deliberately or because he's a moron.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
          This is why you don't talk to Ben, Ming. The constant not getting the point... either deliberately or because he's a moron.
          The latter is probably right...
          He just doesn't get it... and that's what makes it soooooo much better.
          He thinks he wins, and everybody sees him for what he is
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #6
            only women should be priests, and they should be forced to preach naked... first it would fill the churches again, than it would stop porn and turn everyone gay, thus ending overpopulation + resulting deforestation of the environment due to human overpopulation pressures...

            the forests would grow back, consuming excess C02, saving the world from global warming, preventing war and famine... the world would go back to state of balance and long term prosperity of the humankind would be ensured... I agree with this thread title with a slight correction - Governments should not allow men to become Priests
            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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            • #7
              Some good ideas there OFITG... I might even start going back to church again

              But using BK logic, the thread title is correct.

              The Government promotes religions by allowing freedom of religion and giving them generous tax breaks. Yet, a male priest is FOUR TIMES more likely to die of AIDs than the general population. Since health seems to be a big excuse for BK to not allow gay marriages... the same should hold true for being a priest. Men should not be allowed to become priests.

              Bring on the nude women priests
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                In comparison, 45 percent of all new HIV infections are in gay men alone.
                You could at least mask your joy, bigot...
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #9
                  Yet, a male priest is FOUR TIMES more likely to die of AIDs than the general population. Since health seems to be a big excuse for BK to not allow gay marriages... the same should hold true for being a priest. Men should not be allowed to become priests.
                  Yet Gay men are about seven times as likely to die from AIDS.

                  By that logic we should ban homosexuality too while we are at it.
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                  • #10
                    You could at least mask your joy, bigot...
                    One good troll deserves another.

                    I think you are the only one taking this thread seriously...
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                    • #11
                      He thinks he wins, and everybody sees him for what he is
                      That reminds me. I forgot to declare victory over this thread.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        One good troll deserves another.

                        I think you are the only one taking this thread seriously...
                        I know you are seriously a bigot.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          Change your name to Mr. Gay so we can have you up there with Mr. Fun.
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                          • #14
                            Mr Fun is not fun, so you are saying I am not gay.

                            Bigot.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              You are such a ball of sunshine who brings joy to everyone Asher.
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