Taliban 70 Miles From Islamabad!

[Traianvs]

Mobius, Oerdin is obviously trolling. Why else would anyone in his right mind attempt to advocate massive genocide?

[Wezil]

That's because you're incapable of independent thought. Is it that hard to actually use your brain and discuss this topic rather than relying on some cut and paste article...?

I'm more than capable of independent thought (although your posts in this thread indicate that isn't really what you are after) and was well aware of this issue before you posted the thread.

An article would be a courtesy for those that may want to discuss the topic but may not be quite as up to date on the details of Pakistani politics as the wise Mobius.

I should have known better than to expect courtesy from you however. My bad. Once again you get to be the only poster on my ignore list.

[MOBIUS]

Mobius, Oerdin is obviously trolling. Why else would anyone in his right mind attempt to advocate massive genocide?

Because he's done it before...

He's virtually a commie compared to your average American - but that still makes him a right-wing whack job.

[MOBIUS]

Once again you get to be the only poster on my ignore list.

Once again?

Did you unignore me for good behaviour? If so, how did you know when to unignore me...?

So many questions - that you're ignoring...

[chequita guevara]

It's called psychosis. That and the fact that they are incapable of fighting the Taliban since the majority of their people agree with the Taliban.

Actually, the majority of Pakistanis do not agree with the Taliban. If they did, pro-Taliban parties would have won in the elections, as opposed to pro-secular parties kicking ass and taking names. Pro-Taliban elements in Pakistan are a small minority, and will only take over Pakistan if the Pakistani people surrender. The problem is there is sufficient support for the Taliban to significantly destabilize Pakistan through a terror campaign.

Juan Cole > you

[chequita guevara]

Once again you get to be the only poster on my ignore list.

Have you noticed how that improves the quality of the threads?

[Dinner]

Cos they weren't turned into a radioactive wasteland you dip****!

Think of it as an added bonus of deterrence for future Islamists.

[Dinner]

Actually, the majority of Pakistanis do not agree with the Taliban. If they did, pro-Taliban parties would have won in the elections, as opposed to pro-secular parties kicking ass and taking names.

The Islamists are the majority. Let the Indians have a field day with them. Think of it as pay back for the Islamic invasion of South Asia.

[MOBIUS]

Think of it as an added bonus of deterrence for future Islamists.

Populated by Subaru driving 48" pizza eating families called Nuguyen...

[Imran Siddiqui]

WTF, Oerdin?! You've made me 100%, unequivocally agree with MOBIUS on an issue. You suck!

Oh, and Traianvs, Oerdin means it. He's rabidly anti-Muslim.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Actually, the majority of Pakistanis do not agree with the Taliban. If they did, pro-Taliban parties would have won in the elections, as opposed to pro-secular parties kicking ass and taking names. Pro-Taliban elements in Pakistan are a small minority, and will only take over Pakistan if the Pakistani people surrender. The problem is there is sufficient support for the Taliban to significantly destabilize Pakistan through a terror campaign.

Juan Cole > you

Do not use facts with Oerdin. They will not work. I mean, pointing out that the one election right after the Iraq invasion led to a rare victory for Islamist Parties just has to mean the entire country is preparing to jump out of planes and kill Americans, right?

[TCO]

Imran:

I always wondered why you did not volunteer to help the US against the Islamists. Though you are an apostate yourself, you have avoided really speaking out at times. Like after 9-11, you did not call for death and destruction to Al Queda. Did not say the opposite either. But just were silent. And when you had a Christian girl friend, you would not fess up to your parents. And then we had the boohoohoo thread where you complained about people thinking you were the enemy after 9-11. But no corresponding kick ass thread. I'm not saying you are a bad guy. But I just wonder if you really know where your loyalties are. Or if you are a little bit hesitant about really calling out your co-ex-religionasts (apostate). It reminds me of when I de-opped MarkG and kept kicking him out of the chat room and you got scared of him being pissed.

[TCO]

I sorta saw the same thing go down in general with American muslims. They're too surrounded, Americans are too redneck, and they are more apostate...than the good urban fook London muslims to really mouth off. But they don't want to call out their own side either.

[Felch]

This is kind of silly. It's not like there are battle lines with entrenchments or anything.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Actually, the majority of Pakistanis do not agree with the Taliban. If they did, pro-Taliban parties would have won in the elections, as opposed to pro-secular parties kicking ass and taking names. Pro-Taliban elements in Pakistan are a small minority, and will only take over Pakistan if the Pakistani people surrender.

Yep.

The problem is there is sufficient support for the Taliban to significantly destabilize Pakistan through a terror campaign.

The other problem has been that the Pakistani military has been assembled and trained for one purpose and one purpose only: a massive border war with India. As a result, they don't know jack about counterinsurgency tactics, which is how things got so out of control in the northwest in general and Swat in particular. Ironically, the closer the Taliban gets to Islamabad (and the farther they get from their base), the more what they're doing looks like conventional military conquest, and the more capable the Pakistani military should be of dealing with it.

Also ironically, the closer the Taliban gets to Islamabad, the more the Pakistani population is likely to support US military incursions within their borders.