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  • #16
    Did you even read his report? If so you might have noticed this nugget:

    Organizers of these events have strong incentives to exaggerate crowd sizes.
    He pretty much says he's taking their estimates at face value and that it can't be trusted. He's basically saying that this is the outlandish estimates of the event organizers which can't be trusted but it establishes a maximum upper limit. The truth is no doubt much, much closer to the Atlantic's estimate of 26,000.
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    • #17
      Huh? He said that those numbers are from police reports/news organizations.
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      • #18
        I think most people are capable of discerning the difference between a grassroots movement and an orchestrated event. Yesterday was just noise hung on a Tax Day hook.

        The messaging struck me as muddled -- some mouthpieces protesting government spending, some focusing on tax rates, others decrying both. One would think the GOP would be smart enough to wait for the actual raising of taxes to protest high tax rates. So impatient!

        But I'm confident their messaging (most likely, GOP=the party for small businesses) will come together in time for the midterms.
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        • #19
          He says "where possible" but doesn't say how many locations that was possible for.

          Also it claims 500 people were at the San Diego event but I drove by Midway yesterday at lunch to drop off my passport renewal form and there was no where near 500 people at what was supposed to be the height of the event. There was maybe 100 if that.
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          • #20
            Why wait, it's never too early to spew propaganda. There were a lot of people blaming Obama. (despite how silly that is at this point)
            Think of how much better it will be when it actually changes.
            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
              Did you even read his report? If so you might have noticed this nugget:



              Quote:
              Organizers of these events have strong incentives to exaggerate crowd sizes.
              Which is why he said in the previous sentence: "These figures, wherever possible, are drawn from objective attempts to estimate crowd sizes, such as police accounts or estimates made by reporters."



              Quote:
              He pretty much says he's taking their estimates at face value and that it can't be trusted. He's basically saying that this is the outlandish estimates of the event organizers which can't be trusted but it establishes a maximum upper limit. The truth is no doubt much, much closer to the Atlantic's estimate of 26,000.
              Liar.

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              • #22
                Does the rightwing know what teabagging actually is?
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                • #23
                  For a non-event, why so much conversation here about it?
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                  • #24
                    I'd like to say no but sadly this seems like a joke being played on these dopes.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                      For a non-event, why so much conversation here about it?
                      Teabagging is awesome.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                        For a non-event, why so much conversation here about it?
                        Yes, but mostly about how the great GOP hope was a bust.
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                        • #27
                          Oerdin aside, it does seem kinda pathetic that two months of promotion on Fox and talk radio only ended up drawing (using Silver's numbers) a quarter of a million people nationwide. Hell, even Louis Farrakhan did better than that and he gathered them all in the same place.
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                          • #28
                            I have to say that the organizers were clever in distributing the protests over a large geographic area. If they chose a single city, the total would be closer to the 7000 they got in Atlanta than the numbers that they got nationally, and would look a lot more pitiful compared to, i.e. the anti-war protests over the past several years.
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                            • #29
                              From what I saw yesterday in my city, there were about 3,000 people there. I find it unlikely that 1/10th (as he leaves our South Florida) of all the protesters nationwide were in Fort Lauderdale (despite a huge moral majority presence here). Interestingly, local media put the number at 1,000 people, which means it isn't only the far left that gets under counted.

                              Interestingly, apparently corporate lobbyists were behind this.


                              Regardless, Oerdin is a fool to think that this event was a wash. Even if The Atlantic's numbers are to be trusted (and they aren't), it had a huge media presence. It's entirely possible this is the start of something, not the end.

                              Actually, I have to hand it to the conservatives. They lost the elections but refuse to accept the results lying down. They're going to fight every inch of ground and concede nothing.
                              Last edited by chequita guevara; April 16, 2009, 11:22.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                Does the rightwing know what teabagging actually is?
                                They don't call themselves tea baggers.
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