Apology to the Poly Posters

[Lefty Scaevola]

This has almost gone on too long for an April Fools routine, please tie it up before USA tax day.

[MOBIUS]

Thank you.



I'll leave it for the folks on poly to decide the truth, based on your statement and mine.

Ben, all I have to say is that when I was posting on FFZ as one of the mods for Combat Mission before it got fully taken over by Chris and his right-wing lackeys - you weren't there and I'd never even heard of you.

My links with that site ended abrupty when Chris unilaterally permabanned me for absolutely no reason when he took over the site - well, not no reason as I frequently made him look like an idiot on poly and CG - but not on FFZ as I only used it for CM. I guess the guy's dick is so small that he had to get back at me in a Dale-like manner on a completely different forum.

Anyway, you were not around then, and knowing Chris I'm guessing Asher would have been banned at roughly the same time.

So, yes I am inclined to believe Asher's version and not yours - especially when it has been proven that you are already basically a pathological liar.

Thanks for at least confirming that you were banned. I was wondering if you would ever acknowledge it.

I got perbanned from FFZ and it was nothing to do with stalking you - if only because you weren't around when I was posting there.

[Asher]

I just checked out FFZ for ****s and giggles, and it appears to be very, very dead.

That's what you get when you ban everyone except for people like Chris and Ben.

I like how it's still got that NASCAR feel. American flags everywhere, misogynists around every corner, and authoritarian small-dick moderators who ban anyone and everyone who isn't a "Patriot".

I was very careful not to post on the site, so as to not give Ben the impression I was stalking him.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, all I have to say is that when I was posting on FFZ as one of the mods for Combat Mission before it got fully taken over by Chris and his right-wing lackeys - you weren't there and I'd never even heard of you.

When did I say I posted at FFZ prior to Chris taking over the site? He bought it and I was invited around 2003 I believe, and I've posted there ever since.

My links with that site ended abrupty when Chris unilaterally permabanned me for absolutely no reason when he took over the site - well, not no reason as I frequently made him look like an idiot on poly and CG - but not on FFZ as I only used it for CM. I guess the guy's dick is so small that he had to get back at me in a Dale-like manner on a completely different forum.

Given your conduct on Poly, it's pretty clear why he banned your ass. The difference is that Chris bought the site himself, so if you want to stay there, you play by his rules. It would be like Dale buying Apolyton off Ming and Rah, and then permabanning posters he didn't want to hang around.

Anyway, you were not around then, and knowing Chris I'm guessing Asher would have been banned at roughly the same time.

Not until 2005. Asher hadn't posted in 3 years, but revived his account as he testifies. He got permabanned shortly afterwards.

So, yes I am inclined to believe Asher's version and not yours - especially when it has been proven that you are already basically a pathological liar.

Given as you have an axe to grind against Chris, and your own version doesn't square up with either my account or Asher's account.

I also got perbanned from FFZ and it was nothing to do with stalking you - if only because you weren't around when I was posting there.

Good for you. Did I ever say anything about you? No.

[Aeson]

This whole thing is bizarre and stems from Dale getting upset by the comment that Dale sent me pictures of Panda sex via PM months ago.

You're such a lying douchebag. Honestly Ming, fix this. Enough is enough. Ben is slandering and refuses to support his assertions, and you're doing nothing?

[Asher]

The difference is in satire and facetiousness vs seriousness.

[Asher]

Not until 2005. Asher hadn't posted in 3 years, but revived his account as he testifies.

I never testified that, you lying epic douchebag.

Given as you have an axe to grind against Chris, and your own version doesn't square up with either my account or Asher's account.

This makes NO SENSE. MOBIUS isn't giving a "version" to this account. Oh God, Ben, get a clue.

The FACTS are this:
- I was a poster at Freefirezone long before you were a poster on either Apolyton OR on Freefirezone
- I was banned more than once from FreeFireZone, and NEVER was I banned for stalking you
- I'm unaware of being permabanned because no one ever told me as such, because I've never tried posting on the site since (and judging by the activity, no one else is either).
- I've NEVER gotten along with Chris (who is an authoritarian ban-happy Republican) either on Apolyton OR on FreeFireZone. His bannings of me never had anything to do with you and everything to do with Chris whipping out his banning rod to show off his power whenever someone disagreed with him or he didn't like how someone looked at him (and we wonder why the site is dead).
- I've never stalked you on other sites, nor have I ever been permabanned for stalking you
- You are a demonstrable pathological liar, and this case is no exception. You seriously need help.

I find it perplexing you can accuse somebody of following you to other forums when they pre-date you at that ****ing forum.

[Docfeelgood]

HOT DAMN!!

A cat fight folks!!!

[Asher]

HOT DAMN!!

A cat fight folks!!!

It is unbelievable.

I can put Ben on my ignore list (which is working most of the time, until people quote him). But now the admin are letting him get away with constant slander and character assassination attempts, which is unacceptable.

Given the pending change of ownership at Apolyton and given the actions of the admin during this whole scandal on top of their inability to do anything about Ben's incessant dishonesty and lack of integrity and slander, it's looking like my summer project will be to build a gaming community website.

And yes, there will only be one person permabanned at that site: Ben. Posters who lack any kind of integrity would be shown the door, as they should be here.

[MOBIUS]

When did I say I posted at FFZ prior to Chris taking over the site? He bought it and I was invited around 2003 I believe, and I've posted there ever since.

So you're admitting that Asher was at FFZ before you - if anything you are guilty of stalking Asher.

Given your conduct on Poly, it's pretty clear why he banned your ass. The difference is that Chris bought the site himself, so if you want to stay there, you play by his rules. It would be like Dale buying Apolyton off Ming and Rah, and then permabanning posters he didn't want to hang around.

Except he never gave me the option to play by the rules. That is the problem with people like you (LotM today) - the rules don't exist when you have a chance to get back at someone - indeed you seem to think it is your god given right or something to act like a total ****ing hyprocrite when it suits you. Morals? Ethics? Pah!

Not until 2005. Asher hadn't posted in 3 years, but revived his account as he testifies. He got permabanned shortly afterwards.

So you claim. Evidence?

Given as you have an axe to grind against Chris,

No axe to grind, only stating the facts.

and your own version doesn't square up with either my account or Asher's account.

My facts certainly square up with the start portions of both of your accounts, actually.

Good for you. Did I ever say anything about you? No.

I'm just making the point that just cos Asher admits he was banned for 'something' doesn't automatically mean that it supports your unsubstantiated claim...

[Aeson]

The difference is in satire and facetiousness vs seriousness.

Perhaps. You could have been serious. Dale could have been facetious. Perhaps you're both just BK's DLs... It doesn't matter... it's still funny regardless of the intentions of the actors.

[Asher]

Perhaps. You could have been serious. Dale could have been facetious. Perhaps you're both just BK's DLs... It doesn't matter... it's still funny regardless of the intentions of the actors.

Funny, yes; relevant, no.

[lord of the mark]

It is unbelievable.
Given the pending change of ownership at Apolyton and given the actions of the admin during this whole scandal on top of their inability to do anything about Ben's incessant dishonesty and lack of integrity and slander, it's looking like my summer project will be to build a gaming community website.
:

Why not just come over to QuartertoThree?

[Docfeelgood]

Asher and Mobius,
Do you two know each other?

[Asher]

I'm just making the point that just cos Asher admits he was banned for 'something' doesn't automatically mean that it supports your unsubstantiated claim...

I think Ben may be confusing the uptick in my posting activity on other Civ community sites whenever I get banned from Apolyton.

You can ask the folks at CounterGlow or CivFanactics, when I get banned from Poly I still post...just at other sites within the larger community. This does not constitute stalking.