So the police killed an innocent bystander

[SpencerH]

Apparently he did live down there in a homeless hostel and was an alcoholic, which may explain his strange behaviour in front of the riot police. Its looking less and less likely that he was anything but an innocent in this situation. I just wish we had information from a less biased source than The Guardian.

[MOBIUS]

Don't worry, our police can get away with lying about shooting some foreigner in the head at point blank range seven times - whitewashing this should be a walking in the park...

[Cort Haus]

{stupid right wing bollox snipped} I just wish we had information from a less biased source than The Guardian.

The Times
The Telegraph
The Independent
BBC
Channel 4 News

Yes, The Guardian was making it all up

[Cort Haus]

"Innocent bystander walking home" Lets say you're walking home in London (that in itself is clearly a fabrication)

I walk to work in central London and walk home again. So in fact it's you that is fabricating things.

He was impeding the police line and was forcibly moved out of the way. His death is a result of his own actions.

This reminds me of the old "assaulting a police officer's boot with his forehead" line.

[Cort Haus]

Exactly!

He's walking with his hands in his pockets so he cant be accused of throwing rocks, molotov cocktails, etc. This burk was an old-pro at civil disturbance who was trying to provoke a police response (which unfortunately he did).

Take a look at how the football hooligans operate!

You really are quite spectacularly clueless when it comes to this issue, aren't you?

He was a newspaper seller and a Millwall fan. Two activities that are almost archetypal as working-class symbols. The soap-dodger protesters at events like the G20 protests are mostly middle-class drop-outs, and even if he were to have some past history in football violence, people into that kind of aggro are a million miles away from anti-capitalist/globalist protesters. Chances are, the only time he'd want to thump a copper is if one came between him and a West Ham fan. (Hello, Mobius )

[Cort Haus]

Oh, and Wiggy

[MOBIUS]

Chances are, the only time he'd want to thump a copper is if one came between him and a West Ham fan. (Hello, Mobius )

****! You figured out I was the smoking gun...

Don't mind Spence, as a republican, state-sponsored brutality is right up his street...

[SpencerH]

The Times
The Telegraph
The Independent
BBC
Channel 4 News

Yes, The Guardian was making it all up

Sorry but I dont bother to respond to strawmen.

[SpencerH]

I walk to work in central London and walk home again. So in fact it's you that is fabricating things.

This reminds me of the old "assaulting a police officer's boot with his forehead" line.

Good for you, most people who work in central London dont walk home.

[SpencerH]

You really are quite spectacularly clueless when it comes to this issue, aren't you?

He was a newspaper seller and a Millwall fan. Two activities that are almost archetypal as working-class symbols. The soap-dodger protesters at events like the G20 protests are mostly middle-class drop-outs, and even if he were to have some past history in football violence, people into that kind of aggro are a million miles away from anti-capitalist/globalist protesters. Chances are, the only time he'd want to thump a copper is if one came between him and a West Ham fan. (Hello, Mobius )

Of course no working-class brits want to "thump" the police. What planet are you from?

[OneFootInTheGrave]

update

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8004222.stm

Ian Tomlinson, 47, was struck and pushed over by a police officer during G20 protests on 1 April in the City.

Now a fresh post-mortem examination has found he died of abdominal bleeding, not a heart attack, as first thought.

[Asher]

What does it all mean, basil?

[Fake Boris]

I don't see how you can criminally say the police murdered him. I'd like to see the officer fired for clearly using excessive force on a citizen who was doing no wrong, but to call it murder is ludicrous.

Legally, it's still murder. A person's health condition is no excuse for you causing injury.

Say someone has a bone disease, and you break his leg with a mild kick, you're still guilty.

[Asher]

Legally, it's still murder.

No, it's not. The ME has not yet determined what caused the injury which caused his death. So it is not murder.

[Fake Boris]

This obviously isn't what you claimed in the first place.

Yep, the cop was an overly aggressive douchebag (as many cops are).

But the guy had a heart attack.

Get over it. It happens. Especially to people who are old and out of shape, as he appeared to be.