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  • #91
    Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
    No, actually they've become so common that their actions become generic and forgettable. Every 17-year-old trapped in a twentysomething's body comes to seem exactly the same as the rest. It's the emotionally mature girls that actually stand out.
    Also, even if it was true, how would it be any different to boys? Still a huge double standard where boys can go out get horrendously drunk, do something regretful with a girl but people don't go around labelling them all as emotionally retarded whores.
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    We've got both kinds

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
      Hey man, don't joke about the Holocaust. My grandfather died in a concentration camp... he fell out of a guard tower.
      Now you're getting it!

      Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
      NOTE: I AM A JEW.
      I thought you've said half-j00. That's no more j00ish than people who convert strictly for the jokes.
      Unbelievable!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by MikeH View Post
        Also, even if it was true, how would it be any different to boys? Still a huge double standard where boys can go out get horrendously drunk, do something regretful with a girl but people don't go around labelling them all as emotionally retarded whores.

        I never denied that being from a later generation increases the probability that a male will also be an emotionally retarded whore. DF is ample evidence of that. However, the fact that this axiom applies to both sexes has no bearing on whether DF's gross generalizations about women are more or less accurate than Cart's are. I thought that was the issue at hand.
        Unbelievable!

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        • #94
          Cartimundia isn't using generalisations as an excuse for treating women like crap though is she? She's also been much more reasonable in expressing that there are lots of different people out there, I think.
          Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
          Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
            I thought you've said half-j00. That's no more j00ish than people who convert strictly for the jokes.
            My metric has always been: Would Hitler have bothered to draw the distinction? And I think the answer is no.

            Re the topic: Regardless of which stereotypes about males and females are more or less true, the real truth is that certain behaviors attract certain people while other behaviors attract different people. If you want to have sex with people that don't mind being treated like "whores," then that's cool. If you only want to have sex with the "prudes," then maybe you should try a different tact.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by MikeH View Post
              Cartimundia isn't using generalisations as an excuse for treating women like crap though is she?
              I find a little intellectual honesty more important than having a laudable goal, if the two find occasion to conflict.
              Unbelievable!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                Re the topic: Regardless of which stereotypes about males and females are more or less true, the real truth is that certain behaviors attract certain people while other behaviors attract different people. If you want to have sex with people that don't mind being treated like "whores," then that's cool. If you only want to have sex with the "prudes," then maybe you should try a different tact.
                Speaking of intellectual honesty, finally someone speaks the third-way truth.

                (Ok that time I was serious.)
                Unbelievable!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
                  I find a little intellectual honesty more important than having a laudable goal, if the two find occasion to conflict.
                  Luckily here there was no issue with that.
                  Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                  Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                  We've got both kinds

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by MikeH View Post
                    Luckily here there was no issue with that.
                    Really?

                    1) Gross generalization to justify reprehensibly treating women like whores = intellectually dishonest
                    2) Gross generalization to justify laudably treating women like princesses = intellectually dishonest

                    How is there no conflict in #2 between good intentions and intellectual honesty?

                    Perhaps we might instead agree that 3) behavior should be tailored to specific situations as Lori said, or even that 4) we simply shouldn't treat women like whores because we happen to subjectively find it, you know, wrong. No need to overgeneralize from paltry and nonrepresentative anecdotal evidence in either #3 or #4.
                    Last edited by Darius871; March 2, 2009, 13:11.
                    Unbelievable!

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                    • Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
                      4) we simply shouldn't treat women like whores because we happen to subjectively find it, you know, wrong.
                      Being as how this is the 21st century and we're all post-feminist now or whatever, there are non-negative ways to view promiscuous females. So it might not be wrong to treat a woman who's sexually active as if she's sexually active. Now, I'm not sure that I know what behavior is required for such a woman, so my point may be moot.
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                      • It's more fun that way too.

                        JM
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                        • I also like 1 hour delayed xposts.

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                          • And there are a lot of possibilities between prude and slut.

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                            • And there are a lot of possibilities between prude and slut.

                              JM
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                              • I don't feel that I was using an over-generalization. Like I mentioned before, there are women who just want to screw men up. However, there is also a large population who really do want a real relationship. Either extreme is an obvious lie, so let's forget about extremes and talk about reality.

                                Reality says that you can only meet people in places that you are. The comment that mentioned that perhaps I surround myself with a certain kind of woman, actually has an interesting point. I choose who I surround myself with and I think it might just be possible for others to do the same. If you only know women who are whores, where are you finding them?

                                I chose to not hang out in disgusting bars and that resulted in me dating men who were (usually) not players and not just after sex. I met my husband in a museum on a Saturday afternoon. So I would assume other people could meet each other in normal places.

                                Perhaps I am too old for this thread? I mean, it's been 10 years since I was 15 and acting like an immature teenager, so of course I must be in a totally different category from the rest of the people posting in this thread. I always forget how even though I feel really young, 25 is actually really old...
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