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  • #16
    Moonlight 3!

    Those octave trills can be done, but I usually use a bit of pedal to sustain that lower note in the octave while 4th and 5th fingers do the job - strike and release with the thumb. (Actually, I usually just omit the trill these days and say "Screw you Beethoven, you didn't play on modern pianos!" :P ).

    A strange place that I have difficulty is at the very end. For a reason, my left hand has difficulty with the descending C#minor arpeggios; the spacing between E and G# is a bigger span than my 5th and 4th fingers on the LH are used to, and it causes me to miss notes. The reason: I just don't play descending arpeggios in C#minor with the left hand often enough!

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    • #17
      Sarxis - that's one place where I have major problems too. All the other parts of the piece seem to be do-able, just not consistently. But that arpeggio ascent and descent is one bit where my hands just never practiced that sort of accompanying motion. If it was mirror motion my brain would be able to handle it better.

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      • #18
        I can play ... Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting to this day. I played the **** out of them as a kid.


        I take it your parents weren't surprised when you finally came out of the closet.

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        • #19
          To be fair, it was one of his more hetero songs...
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          • #20
            True, but that's not exactly a high bar to clear.

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            • #21
              Beethoven was famous in his own era for his outstanding music composure and for his very long fingers. We know a lot more about his growing deafness than his peers did, but almost all of his playing contemporaries knew that his long fingers made it very difficult for the rest of his peers to duplicate his playing.
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              • #22
                Moonlight Sonata, 3rd Movement:

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                • #23
                  The only hard part about that for me now is exactly how many "diddle-diddle-diddle"s to do on the reprise bits after the octave jumps. I think it's an odd number - five or so.
                  It's 4, depending on whether you count the movement, which repeats the same two keys.
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                  • #24
                    Allie, I am extremely disapointed to finally open this thread and find it isn't about female masturbation during "that time".


                    Piano music.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Thoth View Post
                      Allie, I am extremely disapointed to finally open this thread and find it isn't about female masturbation during "that time".


                      Piano music.
                      its not?




                      Oh SNAP
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                      • #26
                        Realistically this is a relatively "easy" piece to play, considering some of the other stuff he wrote. try and play the Hammerklavier, or some of the Etudes by Liszt and Chopin, since they are so much harder. Also since it is Presto, most performances are actually too slow, since they are more vivace, rather than the noted speed. Now this is Presto. That is what i think is how fast the last movement shold be played at that speed, which will make it extremely difficult, then, but I doubt you will even try for that speed. This Chopin's 4the Etude in C Minor.

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                        • #27
                          OMG Richter, I love Richter!

                          There was a really impressive Youtube video showing him playing Chopin's "Revolutionary" Etude.



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                          • #28
                            Minor update. I'm putting Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata on hold for the moment.

                            I found sheetmusic for Chopin's Waltzes 64 no.2 and 69 no. 2 and will be working on them.

                            I will also try to score a quick hit of sheetmusic for the allegro of Beethoven's Pathetique.
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                            • #29
                              Chopin has a lot of notes that carry over the last note of the preceding measure and which trail over into the first beat of the following measure.

                              I do not handle this well.

                              This same mechanic makes Beethoven's Moonlight mv2 the most difficult part of the entire sonata for me. I keep wanting to play a note on each hand at the start of the measure, and composers who don't do that really F my S right up.

                              However, Chopin still allows for much of the tempo rubato in his waltzes, which is still seriously awesome. Not only does tempo rubato allow me to invest it with more flexibility to showcase the emotional content of the piece, it also means I can actually play it slower to get all the fingering right without the listener knowing about it.

                              Oh, I also got "The Heart Asks Pleasure First" by Michael Nyman. This piece sounds like it's really hard but it's actually pretty easy once you get the chords straight in your mind.

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                              • #30
                                Chopin Waltz 64.2 is coming along nicely. I've only been playing this in a semi-serious fashion, and I think I've gotten all the general chord progressions devoted to memory now. I'll be focusing on the right hand descents when it goes off the scales on the ornamentals.

                                They post suggested fingering for all the pieces but I've never ever found their suggestions of much use. There's a lot of 5-4-5-4-5 nonsense going on for chromatics, which doesn't make much sense to me.

                                I downloaded Chopin's Etude 10.12 (Revolutionary) yesterday and tried to play it. There was blood on the keyboard again.
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