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  • Sarkozy- I want to change the world with Obama

    What did I say about bending over and taking it from Sarkozy and the EU?



    Paris - French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Tuesday that he was impatient for US president-elect Barack Obama to take office so that the two of them could "change the world."

    "We are eager to see him go to work so that we can change the world with him," Sarkozy said during a stop in the city of Provins.

    However, Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner warned that Obama could not work political miracles.

    "He is an exceptional man," Kouchner said, "but he does not have a magic wand."

    Former French presidential candidate Segolene Royal claimed that she and her campaign had inspired Obama during his successful run for the presidency.

    "Yes, I inspired Obama and his teams copied us," Royal was quoted as saying by the online edition of the daily Le Monde in Washington, where she was to be the only French politician of note to take part in Obama's inauguration later on Tuesday.

    Royal said Obama's campaign aides took away several of her ideas, such as her idea of the "citizen expert." In addition, she said Obama "adapted" her tactic of participative democracy to the US political landscape, "which is very different from the European."

    Royal said she came to Washington because she has "a sense of history," and especially because "I wanted to experience it differently than in front of the television screen." (dpa)
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    Go on.

    Do tell us what do you think will happen.

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    • #3
      Looks more like Sarkozy is willing to bend over and take it from Obama. Ben, you've never been right about anything.
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      • #4
        Sarkozy is just trying to rub shoulders and see if some of that magic would crumble on him as well.

        It's weird how popular Obama is outside the US as well. I've been reading some forums, and the long and deep anti-americanism seems to be totally gone. This is largely due to, of course, that the president has changed. Of course it's just beginners hype, he had a great speech, it still carries on for few weeks. But if he keeps on, the US will come from the unpopular position into top position soon. And it DOES matter. It matters a lot.

        It has lots of positive implications, there will be less boycotts, people get along better, and what's most important, when Obama is popular, and US is seen more like the good old days, it means that the fight against terrorism picks up much better. Alliances will be better, easier to form. Agreements will come easier together, and the president of the US will be respected not because of sheer power but because of other things as well. Of course future will show how this discourse is kept, but people are hopeful, even outside the US it seems like. Let's face it, things get done when people get along better.

        So of course, every politician now, worldwide, wants to rub shoulders, see if they can get some of that magic too.
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        • #5
          Not weird, it's called media.

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          • #6
            I don't remember anti-americanism in Latin America among the common people when Clinton was president.
            The left is always anti-american, but the USA, at least here, was quite popular in the 90's.

            Why couldnt the USA be popular again now that Bush is gone?
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            • #7
              Has Chavez stopped referring to Obama as "the black man"?
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              • #8
                It sounds worse in english than in spanish "el negro"

                Quiero hablar con el negro

                I want to talk to the Black Man

                Chavez is part black, he called himself "black indian", I am quite sure that in fact he is tri racial, spanish/black/indian, something quite common in Venezuela and Colombia

                Im sure he does not mean to sound racist.

                Obviously by indian I mean like Moctezuma and not like Lord Shiva
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                • #9
                  It sounds worse in english than in spanish "el negro"

                  Quiero hablar con el negro

                  I want to talk to the Black Man

                  Chavez is part black, he called himself "black indian", I am quite sure that in fact he is tri racial, spanish/black/indian, something quite common in Venezuela and Colombia

                  Im sure he does not mean to sound racist.

                  Obviously by indian I mean like Moctezuma and not like Lord Shiva
                  I need a foot massage

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                  • #10
                    It does sound like Sarkozy has the hots for Obama.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pekka View Post
                      It's weird how popular Obama is outside the US as well. I've been reading some forums, and the long and deep anti-americanism seems to be totally gone. This
                      It's been replaced by anti-europeanism. Oh wait, that has always been around too.
                      Blah

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pekka View Post
                        Sarkozy is just trying to rub shoulders and see if some of that magic would crumble on him as well.

                        It's weird how popular Obama is outside the US as well. I've been reading some forums, and the long and deep anti-americanism seems to be totally gone.
                        That's because amongst the vast majority of people it was never Anti-Americanism, as some people were so desperate to claim. Most so-called Anti-Americans were actually Anti-Bush-administrationists.

                        A lot of Brits are like me. We think America is an awesome country. We've been there on holiday, met wonderful friendly people. MOBIUS would be another example actually. But that doesn't mean we have to be supportive of terrible American foreign policy any more than we were supportive of our own government when it puts in place terrible policy.

                        I think it was the same in America. The labeling of good American citizens, who were passionate about their country and hated to see what Bush was doing to it, as anti-American was disgusting.

                        Criticising your government when it does something you think is bad for the country is vital and patriotic in a democracy.
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                        • #13
                          Current American President already performed an miracle:
                          The miracle of getting back the goodwill of foreign countries, politicians, ordinary people.
                          God bless him.
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                          • #14
                            well US has a lot of goodwill with the rest of the world, so it did not take a lot, especially for the man who in his first actions is going to close Guantanamo... that tells you that he means business and for the rest of the world this is more than enough to be very hopeful that we have in store a lot more reasonable US foreign/other policies for near future... the right 50% took over...

                            The result of Bush years is however that we will not forget that there is still almost 50% of US voters who are not exactly on clear terms with war, torture, lies and other methods as long as they justify the goal...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Barnabas View Post
                              It sounds worse in english than in spanish "el negro"

                              Quiero hablar con el negro

                              I want to talk to the Black Man

                              [...]

                              Im sure he does not mean to sound racist.
                              I guess you are aware that niger is the original latin word for black.
                              It is history and usage that made it a racist word.
                              I do not speak spanish, but according to online dictionaries, the correct spanish word for black (the color for ink or hair) is negro.
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