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**Lorizael** · January 13, 2009, 10:23

As far as the topic of virtual interfaces, there is tactile feedback on the Instinct's touchscreen. It's by no means perfect, but it does make for a much less awkward experience than other touchscreens.

**Lorizael** · January 13, 2009, 10:28

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post

Did we really need this personal insult?

Are you saying it's an insult to call someone gay? That's insulting!

**Asher** · January 13, 2009, 10:40

Originally posted by Lorizael View Post

Are you saying it's an insult to call someone gay? That's insulting!

The gay part wasn't insulting. The feminine (woman!) part was.

I can't think of something more offensive than women.

**Unimatrix11** · January 13, 2009, 13:06

So can we talk about W7 again?

I installed the beta (ultimate 64bit) myself, now (thanks for the heading, chronos). I skipped on Vista. It´s neat. Using it right now. The installation took quite a while - a bit longer than XPpro, i´d say, even if you take into account, that it made any additional driver installation unnesseccary. Worked pretty well right from the first boot-up, which is btw, pretty quick. Not as quick as my personalized XPProLight, but still a lot quicker than XP uncut.

The graphics i find quite amazing sometimes (again: skipped Vista). Though i dont know how to stack the windows is this 3D-fashion yet (like seeing them from a different angle). How does that work? Some features are really useful - like the enhanced right-click-context-menus. If i close this window, in order to return to this site, i just have to right-click the IE-icon and pic this site from the context menu directly. Nice.

Tested FallOut3 so far and seems to work stable. So do the ATI-drivers (CCC) for Vista 64-bit it seems (had to install those, since my glitchy graphics adapter needs to be downclocked in order not to crash).

Of course there is still a lot to iron out. Error messages for example are even funnier than usual MS-messages in this beta. In just an afternoon i thought at least twice ´OMGWTF?!´:

- On first try, i didnt have a partition ready for install, so i quit. The message appearing was something along the lines of: ´Do you really want to quit? For this installation to be completed, you need to complete the installation.´

- Then a bit later, i was prompted to choose my language. I chose ´german´ (and this is the german version, alledgely). Next thing appearing on my screen in big, fancy letters is: ´Setup is starting...´ (and, no, that´s not german).

But yeah okay, beta and stuff, sure. In general, i like it. Cant compare it to Vista, but i will probably switch to it from XP once it´s released (and will use it for DX10 in 3D games as long as i legally can right now - for testing purposes of course).

Some system specs: AMD 3700+ (single core!), ATI 3850 (512), 2 GB.

**Asher** · January 13, 2009, 13:14

Originally posted by Unimatrix11 View Post

So can we talk about W7 again?

I installed the beta (ultimate 64bit) myself, now (thanks for the heading, chronos). I skipped on Vista. It´s neat. Using it right now. The installation took quite a while - a bit longer than XPpro, i´d say, even if you take into account, that it made any additional driver installation unnesseccary. Worked pretty well right from the first boot-up, which is btw, pretty quick. Not as quick as my personalized XPProLight, but still a lot quicker than XP uncut.

From what I've read, Windows 7 installs faster (significantly so) than both Vista and XP. Mind you, I've never installed it -- MS gave us pre-configured VPC images.

The graphics i find quite amazing sometimes (again: skipped Vista). Though i dont know how to stack the windows is this 3D-fashion yet (like seeing them from a different angle). How does that work?

WIN+TAB (windows key and tab, like alt-tab but with windows key).

**Unimatrix11** · January 13, 2009, 13:20

YAY - cool ! Thx, Asher !

Well, for XP, i made a personalized setup-disc, and used that the last couple of times. With that it took about an hour or so (with all drivers being on the disc already) + SPacks. Hence I actually may be fooled by that in remembering how long it took for the original to install. But to me, the W7-install seemed to take very long (and the progress bars are were not very consistent - stuck on 0% for like 10 min during extraction phase and then went on with maybe 1% every 10-15 secs or whatnot, which may have contributed to the rather long ´felt duration´).

**onodera** · January 13, 2009, 14:20

Originally posted by Unimatrix11 View Post

So can we talk about W7 again?
Tested FallOut3 so far and seems to work stable.

**Unimatrix11** · January 13, 2009, 14:22

You dont like ´camelbacks´, onodera? It´s about the only ´new´ thing in written language i do like. So, sorry...

**onodera** · January 13, 2009, 15:06

Originally posted by Unimatrix11 View Post

You dont like ´camelbacks´, onodera? It´s about the only ´new´ thing in written language i do like. So, sorry...

I don't mind camelbacks, but "Fallout" is not one of those words. Just BeCause a word has several recognizable parts doesn't mean you should capitalize every one of them, UniMatrix.

**Blaupanzer** · January 13, 2009, 15:22

Originally posted by onodera View Post

I've never had any speed issues with Vista. Yes, I have a dual-core machine with 2 gigs of RAM. I've been running Vista since summer 2007, and haven't had to reinstall it since.

Ordinary users constantly get jammed by Vista's less-than-instinctive interfaces. Also, Windows Vista digressed in several ways from the prior windows patterns by which MS trained all their users. To folks like my SO, this matters a lot. For her, the OS is a means to an end. She swears the apps she uses are much slower. Twin processors might mitigate this, snicker. Further, my customers tell me Vista is full of security holes.

What is the Mojave effect?

**Asher** · January 13, 2009, 15:27

Originally posted by Blaupanzer View Post

Ordinary users constantly get jammed by Vista's less-than-instinctive interfaces.

Like what?

Also, Windows Vista digressed in several ways from the prior windows patterns by which MS trained all their users.

Like what?

To folks like my SO, this matters a lot. For her, the OS is a means to an end. She swears the apps she uses are much slower. Twin processors might mitigate this, snicker. Further, my customers tell me Vista is full of security holes.

Vista is far more secure than XP is.

What is the Mojave effect?

It was an experiment (and subsequent advertising campaign) where users were shown Vista, but were told it was a preview copy of an upcoming version of Windows called "Mojave". The results were overwhelmingly positive, especially among people who said they did not have a favourable opinion of Vista).

Mojave Experiment - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mojave

As you have demonstrated, there's an insane amount of disinformation and baseless claims about Vista.

**ZEE** · January 13, 2009, 16:33

**snoopy369** · January 13, 2009, 21:15

Another thing that might be causing folks to think Vista is slow: it has an annoying tendency to use up one whole core on Disk Defragmentation while I am doing things.

**Verto** · January 13, 2009, 22:26

Trying to download the beta, but the download site is slooow

EDIT: Found a site (download squad) offering a direct download link. Hopefully it'll work so I can give it a spin

**Asher** · January 13, 2009, 22:30

I think Windows 7 crippled Xbox Live downloads also. It took me an hour to download the 500MB Fable II expansion..

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