How would you solve is Israel-Palestinian issue?

[OneFootInTheGrave]

It's the equivalent of adding 6 million people to the USA (which, of course, is far wealthier than Egypt). 6 million undereducated, sometimes malnourished, dirt poor and often radicalized people, complete with terrorist organizations in their midst (or rather, as their elected leadership). You're off your rocker here.
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hard to read this as quote system is not exactly working all the time... so I'll try with breaks
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6 mil for US, but US is not next to a perpetual war in the zone which "used" to be theirs + the 1.5 million people would be "sponsored" by the rest of the world for restructuring... certainly the best solution comparing to the alternatives.

Egyptian police state taking control would have much better chance of dealing with the terrorists, and enabling the others to have a different future than a nearly certain early death in poverty, as is a the moment...

It would be bad though if we dumped this on Egypt and suddenly all the money promised doesn't come or similar, but we would not do that would we
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Arrian:

Equivalent to adding ~100 million people to the USA (again, which is far richer than Jordan). You know, just like take over Mexico (which, while pretty messed up, is in better shape than the West Bank), guys. No biggie, you can handle it!

Oh, and by the way, Jordan has made it clear - repeatedly - that they are very much opposed to taking the West Bank back. It would probably bring down their regime, and they won't have that.
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sure now they are opposed to it when they used to be for... but still a lot better than leaving it on it's own, or even worse merging with Israel... some money and some hand twisting would get them want it again... I have no dobut, after all it was idiotic politics of Israel/others who stopped that being the case 20 years ago... time to revisit this option, if they want "some" kind of solution...

This would more like reunification of eastern and western Germany... it was not easy, but comparing to the alternatives.... easy... if Jordan with external help cannot manage it, how would you expect a "sovereign" West Bank state to succeed in any way...
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Arrian:

Not sure, actually. And why did you put police state in quotes?

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For police state - no reason - people still live there, but police state as it is, does not kill the people by the thousands from time to time... at least theirs does not do it yet...

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Arrian:

1. Che points out one example. There's also Northern Ireland.
2. Yes, the level of hatred at this point probably makes the 1-state solution not viable. There would have to be an intermediate stage. I said it was a bit of a pipe dream when I first brought it up.

-Arrian

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A lot more external pressure and control + internal split in Bosnia to to control the "situation" which is far from healed, that could never really be achieved in Israel. In addition the people are a lot more similar in their customs and language in Bosnia so there are some obvious common points which help...

Similar with NI... people most of all got fedup there with the war, but to comparative difference between Catholics and Protestants there is almost non existant in comparison to Palis and Israelis...

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[Saras]

I think Dniepr river in Ukraine would make much finer, natural border of Poland
than what we have today. Does it mean Poland has right to occupy Ukraine?

Only jointly with Grand Duchy

[onodera]

Only jointly with Grand Duchy

I think we should apologize for our landgrabs in 1939 and hand Wilno back to Rczschczsch Pospolita.

[Saras]

I think we should apologize for our landgrabs in 1939 and hand Wilno back to Rczschczsch Pospolita.

nononono. We should apologise for our landgrabs up to 1410, and give Russia ex-Moscow to Mongols

[Heresson]

I think we should all apologise for our landgrabs and return to the indo-european motherland somewhere in India, Kazakhstan or wherever...

[Zevico]

Briefly, I do not think that there is a solution acceptable to both parties in the near term to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, so practical discussion on the matter is futile.

Idealistically speaking, I dislike the notion of a 'nation-state' as such whether Palestinian or Jewish, or any other nationality, and prefer the notion that people should govern themselves via liberal democratic states that act for their citizens without regard to their place of origin, ethnicity, religion or cultural affiliation. Needless to say the "ideal" solution would be for the Palestinian and Israeli peoples to support and form liberal democratic states, or a single liberal democratic state, whichever is more practical.

[Theben]

Nuke Mecca and Medina.

[germanos]

From Ha'aretz ticker:

Voodoo priests in Benin pray for Israeli-Palestinian peace (Reuters)


According to Eli it's an evil leftwing rag, so I'm afraid Benin is not really going to solve the problem


On topic: I'm pretty convinced I will never see the end of this conflict. And I'm counting on living for another 40 years. The only hope is for a Palestinian Ghandi or Mandela, but the chances of any such person succeding are pretty slim. The region has a history of nailing such people to a cross.

[Heresson]

Briefly, I do not think that there is a solution acceptable to both parties in the near term to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, so practical discussion on the matter is futile.

Idealistically speaking, I dislike the notion of a 'nation-state' as such whether Palestinian or Jewish, or any other nationality, and prefer the notion that people should govern themselves via liberal democratic states that act for their citizens without regard to their place of origin, ethnicity, religion or cultural affiliation. Needless to say the "ideal" solution would be for the Palestinian and Israeli peoples to support and form liberal democratic states, or a single liberal democratic state, whichever is more practical.

It is simply impossible when there are two dominant groups, not just one. In Australia, it is obvious that english language is the official one, that cultural references are british and christian... If there are two highly different groups, it's impossible to merge them in a modern state.

The state has to have some profile:
- the official language
- the flag
- the history taught at schools
- national holidays
- days free of work
etc.

I guess You could make Israel a state where Arabs would not be persecuted, but it still would be a jewish state. You could make (with much more effort) Palestine a state where Jews would be at home, but it still would be an Arab state