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    LOS ANGELES – "SpongeBob SquarePants" might get squeezed off Time Warner Cable.

    Media giant Viacom Inc. said its Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central and 16 other channels will go dark for 13 million subscribers at 12:01 a.m. Thursday if a new carriage fee deal with Time Warner Cable Inc. is not agreed upon by then.

    The impasse would mean "SpongeBob" and other popular shows like Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" and Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report" will be cut off on the nation's second-largest cable operator. Time Warner Cable primarily serves people in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas.

    Viacom has asked for fee increases of between 22 percent and 36 percent per channel, or a total of $39 million more, an amount that could increase customers' cable bills, said Time Warner Cable spokesman Alex Dudley.

    "The issue is that they have asked for an exorbitant increase in their carriage fees and their network ratings are sagging," Dudley said. "Basically we're trying to hold the line for our customer."

    Viacom spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew disputed the figure, saying Viacom requested an increase in the very low double-digit percentage range.

    Viacom said the increases would cost an extra 23 cents a month per subscriber. It said that Americans spend a fifth of their TV time watching Viacom shows but its fees make up less than 2.5 percent of the Time Warner cable bill.

    "We make this request because Time Warner Cable has so greatly undervalued our channels for so long," Viacom said.

    "Ultimately, however, if Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, MTV and the rest of our programming is discontinued — over less than a penny per day — we believe viewers will see this behavior by their cable company as outrageous," Viacom said.

    Time Warner Cable's Dudley said Viacom rejected his company's proposal to extend the contract while the sides continue to negotiate.

    Instead, Viacom appealed directly to Time Warner Cable's customers, with TV ads in major markets. In Wednesday's New York Times, the company ran a full-page, color advertisement with Nickelodeon's animated bilingual heroine "Dora the Explorer" crying and clinging to her monkey pal, Boots.

    "Why is Dora crying?" the ad asks. "Time Warner Cable is taking Dora off the air tonight!" The ad urges viewers to call Time Warner Cable and demand that their favorite shows remain on the air.

    If the shows go dark after midnight, Time Warner Cable will send people to the Internet to catch episodes. Dudley said the cable operator also will make available a video teaching people how to hook their computers up to the TV to watch online shows — a tactic it used during a contract dispute with broadcaster LIN TV in October.

    Part of the disagreement is that most of Viacom's popular shows are rerun on Web sites where Viacom collects advertising revenue that it does not share with Time Warner, Dudley said. "We don't think that's fair," he said.

    Viacom has staked much of its revenue-growth prospects on its ability to extract higher carriage rates out of its cable and satellite affiliates despite an ad slowdown and weak ratings.

    In the third quarter, media network revenue, which accounts for about two-thirds of Viacom's total, grew 6 percent to $2.1 billion, despite global ad revenue falling 2 percent, largely because of double-digit percentage growth in affiliate fees and the success of its "Rock Band" video game.

    Viacom shares rose 45 cents, 2.3 percent, to $19.71 in late morning trading Wednesday. Time Warner Cable shares lost 39 cents, 1.8 percent, to $21.37.

    The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul.


    Greedy buttholes screw with the people that feed them.

    How am I gonna live without VH1 Soul and Pure Country?

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  • #2
    Thank god for the internets.
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    • #3
      amen
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      • #4
        Time Warner is giving me an upgrade on my speed from 10 to ... 23, I think it is. I have to go trade in the box.
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        • #5
          If this causes cable bills to go up, how will people be able to afford it if their monthly bill goes up by twenty-five cents?
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          • #6
            By 25 cents? Damn. Should I send you 3 dollars? That would cover a year.
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            • #7
              Let's just go to a-la-carte cable pricing nationwide. Mandatory. You select which channels you get, pay appropriately. $5 for the connection [and local channels], $0.05-$0.75 per channel depending on the channel (and a bit more for HBO etc., as current).

              My cable package:
              Local Channels
              ESPN $0.75
              ESPN2 $0.25
              ESPNC $0.10
              TBS $0.60
              TNT $0.50
              FX $0.30
              CSN (local sports) $0.20

              Total bill: $7.80 plus HD costs (say, $5) plus local taxes ($20 or so) for a total cable bill of $32.80 Add in HBO and Showtime, say, and I'm still well under the current basic rate for cable in my area ...
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              • #8
                That would be the death of many special interest cable networks. While I like the idea personally, in the end, it would limit the amount of available channels and programming. Everything would be produced for the masses, and the real tightly targeted stuff would disappear. We've seen how bad traditional network stuff as gotten thanks to them programmng for the masses... I wouldn't want to see the same for cable as well.
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                • #9
                  Current cable system: Communism
                  A La Carte cable: Capitalism

                  If there is so much value to the community that they exist, the government can run the stations... but in general, the 'special interest' programming is crap anyway, and the Internet has superceded the need for it anyhow.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ming
                    That would be the death of many special interest cable networks. While I like the idea personally, in the end, it would limit the amount of available channels and programming. Everything would be produced for the masses, and the real tightly targeted stuff would disappear. We've seen how bad traditional network stuff as gotten thanks to them programmng for the masses... I wouldn't want to see the same for cable as well.
                    I would love to see reality shows die off like so many starving maggots.
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                    • #11
                      The reality shows are a prime example of programming to the masses as cheap as possible...
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                      • #12
                        Yeah, I called about this since I have TWC (for all the good it will do). Not particularly happy...between NFL Network, this mess, and other service related problems, I'm just about ready to go with hulu/itunes/bt/etc. The only reason I pay through the nose for cable is because it's convenient...if they keep screwing around like this, there's no more convenience and no more reason for me to stick with cable.
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                        • #13
                          Why should I pay for something I don't want or use?

                          Rather then just getting a v-chip, people should be able to choose the channels that they want for their cable.

                          If I want to just watch Animal Kingdom all day, I should be able to get it.

                          Granted this system means that they per show rates will go up, but that's a direct function of demand. Look at packages like Centre Ice, or with the NFL Gameday. They work because they promise that people can watch whatever game they want to watch not whatever the cable tells them they should want.
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                          • #14


                            Deal is done.

                            ACK!
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                            • #15
                              *waiting for an announcement on NFL Network*

                              .......

                              Aw.
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