Make my Day......GOV Blagojevich arrested.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by rah


Easy, that totals over 25 MILLION dollars. Geeze. At least you could have quoted it by taxpayer or family.

Are you being deliberately dense?

You are both a taxpayer and a resident eligible to vote, as are the great majority of people over 18 in Illinois. Therefore the mean cost to an individual to have his Senator represent his will (in due proportion) is 2$.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles

Originally posted by Asher
Chicago: Corrupt third world of the USA.

Not even close. New Jersey is easily the most corrupt state, and Chicago doesn't even place in the running against any Southern state. Chicagoans are just worse at it, so they get caught more.

Please. Louisiana is far more corrupt than Jersey.

[rah]

Yeah, I have to agree with Imran. A special election would have a real crappy turnout, so I doubt the results would truely be representative anyway. And quit using that $2 number and use the real number 25 MILLION. Spending 25 million to have 10% of the people select a senator doesn't make any sense to me.

25 Million could put some extra people to work helping to rebuild critical infrastructure.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Please. Louisiana is far more corrupt than Jersey.

They would be if they could, but they have less to be corrupt about or with.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

composed of individual representatives who are supposed to exercise independent judgment

You mean when an individual representative who votes with their party only 90% of the time is considered to be some sort of maverick?

Then perhaps you folks should exercise better judgment in who you vote for.

If you're this blase about who represents you then why not just vote "R" or "D" and have the parties cast those votes in the legislature? Would save the expense of having to pay Senators and Congressmen.

[Arrian]

1. I do think there should be elections for vacated posts.

2. Haha, what a tool. Nail him to the wall!

-Arrian

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I already stated the cost to taxpayers. ~2$ per resident. Sorry if I think that my representation in government for 2 years is worth more than that.

There is already indirect representation through my vote of Governor. I think $20 million (for GA) can be better spent, especially in a time of budget crisis. It doesn't bother more than there is an appointed Senator for 2 years, just as it doesn't bother me that the Courts are mostly appointed.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by rah
Yeah, I have to agree with Imran. A special election would have a real crappy turnout, so I doubt the results would truely be representative anyway. And quit using that $2 number and use the real number 25 MILLION. Spending 25 million to have 10% of the people select a senator doesn't make any sense to me.

25 Million could put some extra people to work helping to rebuild critical infrastructure.

Stop using the 2$ number? Why? It demonstrates quite nicely the price you're apparently willing to put on the will of the people of Illinois for the next 2 years.

[rah]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Are you being deliberately dense?

You are both a taxpayer and a resident eligible to vote, as are the great majority of people over 18 in Illinois. Therefore the mean cost to an individual to have his Senator represent his will (in due proportion) is 2$.

No you're trying to play with the number to make it sound as low as possible.
I guarentee that if the amount of people in illinois that are either under 18 or not taxpayers is more that enough to change the mean cost. Your math is dead wrong. Which doesn't surpise us here.

It would make the most sense to have the appointment good until the next election opportunity. We would still get a smaller turnout but it would be larger than if it was just a special election, and the cost to the state would be minimal.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


There is already indirect representation through my vote of Governor. I think $20 million (for GA) can be better spent, especially in a time of budget crisis. It doesn't bother more than there is an appointed Senator for 2 years, just as it doesn't bother me that the Courts are mostly appointed.

Courts (and subordinate administrative posts!) are appointed for a reason. Legislatures are elected for other reasons. Mixing the two because you're too lazy to hold an election is not a good idea.

[chequita guevara]

Maybe Illinoisans should just accept the fact that their governors are corrupt, and instead try to regulate the corruption.

[KrazyHorse]

guarentee that if the amount of people in illinois that are either under 18 or not taxpayers is more that enough to change the mean cost. Your math is dead wrong. Which doesn't surpise us here.

Once more, demonstrating that you have missed the point entirely. It's beginning to be a pattern with you. I have yet to see you contribute meaningfully to a discussion on this website.



The chance of being a taxpayer in Illinois and not being able to vote and the chance of being able to vote and not being a taxpayer are both far less than one. So whatever increased cost borne by individual taxpayers due to some residents not being taxpayers is compensated by increased political power due to most of those same residents not being able to vote.

You plodder.

[rah]

Hmmm 27% of the people in Illinois are 18 or under.
I'm sure that won't impact any means. Your understanding of basic math is quite lacking.
Adding in non taxpayers over the age of 18 would slant it even more.

SO stop using your bogus number and just use

25 MILLION.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Good work by Fitzgerald.

I wonder if he can get anyone else before Obama fires him?

[pchang]

Here's an idea

Every governor also spends one year in state prison for every year in office.