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What's this? GePap justifying the use of cluster munitions against the pining call of the Norwegian Peace Dove?
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What's this? GePap justifying the use of cluster munitions against the pining call of the Norwegian Peace Dove?
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B-52s aren't the only kind of attack aircraft. Explain to me how you're going to fit extra bombs on an F-16 after you've used up all the available hard points.It's not like B-52s can carry "six bombs total"
Conventional PGMs are expensive and kill fewer targets than a cluster bomb does. A cluster bomb is obviously the best choice for attacking a large formation of enemy soldiers/vehicles.There are also smart bombs to use, you don't need to have cluster munitions to be guided bombs...Comment
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We should ban them for the bad countries, but leave them for the good countries.Comment
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Originally posted by Asher
There are also smart bombs to use, you don't need to have cluster munitions to be guided bombs...
Originally posted by Asher
CBU-105 cost: $360,000 (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/cbu-97.htm)
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6 CBU-105 = $360,000 * 6 = $2.16 million
Mk 84: $5700-7600
GBU-15: $274,000
6 × CBU-105 = 8 GBU-15
Which is more cost effective, Ashie?(\__/) Save a bunny, eat more Smurf!
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I like how you keep moving the target.Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
B-52s aren't the only kind of attack aircraft. Explain to me how you're going to fit extra bombs on an F-16 after you've used up all the available hard points.
I don't know about mount points but if the military or its contractors are too stupid to figure out how to add additional mount points for physically smaller munitions, they don't deserve the power to drop bombs in the first place."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Clearly the GBU-15, unless you're being facetious?Originally posted by Straybow
Originally posted by Asher
There are also smart bombs to use, you don't need to have cluster munitions to be guided bombs...
Originally posted by Asher
CBU-105 cost: $360,000 (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/cbu-97.htm)
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6 CBU-105 = $360,000 * 6 = $2.16 million
Mk 84: $5700-7600
GBU-15: $274,000
6 × CBU-105 = 8 GBU-15
Which is more cost effective, Ashie?
BTW: I like how the "production cost" is significantly lower than the "acquisition cost" -- this illustrates how incompetent the military is in their purchasing.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Clearly the GBU-15, unless you're being facetious?
God, you really don't know what you're talking about...Comment
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6 ×CBU-105 kills dozens of tanks
8 × GBU-15 kills maybe 6 tanks, 8 if you're lucky(\__/) Save a bunny, eat more Smurf!
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Since when are B-52s considered "attack" aircraft?
Unless they're being used as gunships like the AC-130, or tank-killers like the AH-64 or the A-10?B♭3Comment
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I've yet to see this actually substantiated. You'll notice both you, Patty, and Drake all have avoided backing up the assertion that 6 of those killed dozens of tanks.Originally posted by Straybow
6 ×CBU-105 kills dozens of tanks"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Asher
BTW: I like how the "production cost" is significantly lower than the "acquisition cost" -- this illustrates how incompetent the military is in their purchasing.
"Production cost" for a GM car is probably around $2000. "Production cost" does not include amortization of production equipment or development cost.
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It amuses the heck out of me to see a bunch of people who know absolutely nothing about the military, cluster bombs, tactics, etc. have such a heated argument about the matter, pretending they can google some numbers up and use that as 'evidence'...
As far as I know, there are precisely two people who have any actual knowledge of the subject who have posted in here. I'll stick with those peoples' opinions until someone knowledgeable posts on the subject...<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
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I've yet to see this actually substantiated. You'll notice both you, Patty, and Drake all have avoided backing up the assertion that 6 of those killed dozens of tanks.Comment
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Asher is right. We should just go out and collect some ore and pump out Predators from our war factory!
Hell, lets just send in Tanya
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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There's no one in this thread who has designed or dropped cluster bombs.Originally posted by snoopy369
It amuses the heck out of me to see a bunch of people who know absolutely nothing about the military, cluster bombs, tactics, etc. have such a heated argument about the matter, pretending they can google some numbers up and use that as 'evidence'...
As far as I know, there are precisely two people who have any actual knowledge of the subject who have posted in here. I'll stick with those peoples' opinions until someone knowledgeable posts on the subject...
Pretend that because one is or was in the military and understands the issue in detail is a fallacy, especially when said person was in the Navy and not an aviator."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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