I just had an idea for a future empire

[Heraclitus]

Ok I don't mind a thread bashing me turned physics thread, but why are you guys thread jacking can't you start your own? I just wanted a bit of a advice on a work of fiction.

[onodera]

You can't put blue on red or red on blue, the laws of heraldry disallow that.

[TCO]

Tell me what you know about density functional theory, Heraclitus.

[Elok]

Originally posted by onodera
You can't put blue on red or red on blue, the laws of heraldics disallow that.

Good thing this isn't twelfth-century Europe we're talking about then. Take your rule of tinctures and shove it up your arse! [/needlesslyhostile]

[Ben Kenobi]

Nobody likes my flag?

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

[TCO]

No. Those 12th century people knew what they were talking about. Too dark of colors all mixed together.

[onodera]

Metal should not be put on metal, nor colour on colour (Humphrey Llwyd, 1568). This means that or and argent (gold and silver, which are represented by yellow and white) may not be placed on each other, and neither may one of the colours (tinctures that are neither or nor argent) be placed on another colour.

A Sino-European flag could be Azure with Or stars encircling Or ä¸åœ‹ÑŽ

You can't expect to combine the flag of the US with anything, as it already has to circumvent the rule of tincture by careful wording.

[OzzyKP]

Re: I just had an idea for a future empire

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Remember the Sino-American union of Firefly? I recently got the idea of making a future fictional global hyperpower imagine its symbol as some kind of morph between the EU and Chinese flag.


Question: Now should it be red or blue?

Both have yellow stars in two different patterns as their main elements so figuring something out for those should be easy.


Second question: Would there be a way to graphically create an attractive morph of US symbols and the EU and Chinese flag.

Third question: Any ideas on backstory?

An alliance I could see, especially if there were a reusrgent Russia to worry about. But I doubt two geographically and culturally distinct countries would just merge. There would be a greater chance of the US and EU merging. But I doubt that would happen anytime sooner than one-world government either.

I think China will democratize in the next 20 years and eventually (probably not in our lifetime), either through the UN or some new democracy only organization as some suggest, there will be greater federation, interdependence and blending of various countries heading to a world government. Regional blocks may emerge, like the EU, but I doubt something like the EU and China, or US and either EU or China would just go and merge.

Firefly though.

[Elok]

Originally posted by TCO
No. Those 12th century people knew what they were talking about. Too dark of colors all mixed together.

Actually, I believe the only reason was that the or and argent bits were the only shiny parts, and it was too hard to contrast bright from bright or dark from dark from across a jousting field. Nobody jousts seriously now and we have binoculars and zooming cameras anyway, so I say screw it. Besides, we're talking about flags, not coats of arms.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by onodera
You can't expect to combine the flag of the US with anything, as it already has to circumvent the rule of tincture by careful wording.

Muslim America.

[TCO]

That's a great looking flag actually. those 12th century types knew a thing or too.

[onodera]

Originally posted by Dauphin


Muslim America.

14 stripes?

[Dauphin]

On the Malaysian one, yes.

[Zkribbler]

I would essentially use the Chinese flag....but instead of the one big star and four little stars in the union, I would have the one big star surrounded by the twelve little stars of the E.U.


Q: Why would the EU ever form a union with China??

[Alinestra Covelia]

If China is no longer Communist in this speculative fiction, then you don't need to incorporate the five-star red flag.

But the number 5 has been fairly consistent for the Chinese flag. The Republic of China (pre-Communist) had a five stripe flag that was red, yellow, blue, white, and black. The reasons for this vary but apparently hark back to the five main ethnic groups.

If you want to incorporate the current Chinese flag into the EU flag, this might be a concept for a decent fusion. It's not quite there but it's just an idea I had.