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that was my reaction when I found out Santa didn't exist, but I'm a junkie hitman with a law degree 
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Well, their mom seems to have been more protective, so they probably didn't do the whole package
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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What bollocks.Originally posted by OzzyKP
Lying to them about things like Santa is what makes them jaded and cynical in the first place.
Let kids be kids.
Don't make them grow up too fast, let them enjoy the wonder of childhood.
Children are NOT adults.I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.Comment
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I'm wondering just how ****ed up Ozzy's childhood was. He's still in his rebellion phase well into his 20s? 30s?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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What bollox. Total, utter, fùcked-up, bollox.Originally posted by OzzyKP
Lying to them about things like Santa is what makes them jaded and cynical in the first place.
wd Ozzy. You just curled out the most spectacular pile of drivel yet seen on the internet.Comment
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Totally agree. Childhood christmas memories still touch me now, and the coloured lights on a cold winter night help bring those back with a smile. At that tender age the line between reality and fantasy is indistinct, and the joy of the belief in magic and wonder is a perfectly healthy aspect of imaginative development.Originally posted by Asher
As I said, some of my best childhood memories involved the "magic" of Christmas time, Easter, etc. And I'm not religious either.
In its own way, growing up past the belief in these things is a wonder too, and in no way is it damaging to discover the truth.Comment
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Santa Claus is fake?!
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"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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So is God (seriously).Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Santa Claus is fake?!
Sorry Ben.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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As a kid, I always thought that it was adults that believed in Santa Claus and I shouldn't ruin their cherished illusions by not playing along.
Santa is more like the personification or guardian spirit of christmas.
I don't think that anyone but the most gullible kids think that there are really elves pounding out Wii's in some arctic workshop.
Are we really so grown up as a species that we've lost the need for all our little spirits and household gods?
I guess I'm just a pagan at heart."Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
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"sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.Comment
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There is nothing bad about fantasy - kids will pick that up from the culture without help from anyone, and if they do, there is no particulalr harm in allowing the belief for a few years.
That said, I personally would not be the first one to tell them about Santa, and I wouldn't feel bad if they never did believe in him, or any other fantasy creature. They will have plenty of fantasies anyways, like thinking life in fair and such.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Someone just pissed in Ozzy's Post Toasties and he's had a hard-on about it ever since.
Last edited by SlowwHand; November 27, 2008, 21:11.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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So is God (seriously).there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived could tear apart.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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'twas the night before Christmas, too...Ben."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Did a gang of Salvation Army Santa's beat you up when you were a kid?Originally posted by OzzyKP
Lying to them about things like Santa is what makes them jaded and cynical in the first place.
I don't know anybody who is emotionally damaged from when they found out Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy aren't real."Every time I have to make a tough decision, I ask myself, 'What would Tom Cruise do?' Then I jump up and down on the couch." - Neil StraussComment
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Now you do with Ozzy.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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