Question for the business guru's here

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Retail companies are usually in the red for most of the year. That doesn't mean they are all dying. Seriously, you should stop trying to talk about business. You're just annoyingly ignorant.

Kid, this is just plain BS - please read my #69 posting

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I don't understand the concrete business really well, but I would think it's more like selling gas than manufacturing.

Builders call and ask for a load. If the builder calls and the price is whack, he calls the next guy. If there is a healthy market for 30 trucks, but there are 50 on the road, loaded, the price cutting happens pretty fast with a bottom feeder around. The guy answering the call has to have the knowledge and the power to make a deal.

It sounds like GT is on top of it. I'd need to know more about how the sale is made to offer any opinion.

Well, lets take the concept of many differing levels of consumers.

1) C.O.D...those purchasing once or twice in a lifetime, yes they call and usually buy from cheapest supplier.

2) Homebuilder/contractor/finisher..depending upon what size crew/how many jobs/how frequently they need concrete, it is just as important they be guarenteed a service committment, say 4 trucks 4 out of 5 business days. I have 22 trucks at my disposal, the most in this market, with three facilities, so i can handle these guys very easily.

3) Commercial jobs/transportation jobs-Where thery do say 200 + cyds (20 + truckloads) 2-3 days a week, early in morning...they need committment and thats our forte', usually say over a 16-20 month committment

4) design Build projects- we assist in providing value added, job specific performance mixes to marry up to their time schrdulr, usually from time of initial bid to time of actual placement goes well into the 15 month range, then it could go 28-40 months to secure pricing for the very placements, which is wheree you figure escalating in say at start of new year, basically the contractor need then to estimate based upon his timeline schedule.....

4) Fast track big box stores..i.e.WalMart,Lowes,Home Depot,target,ect. These run from 6500 to 11,000 cubic yards in approx a 4-5 month gate-to-gate timeline. Price is important but failing to meet construction timelines = major L D's...


So you have a wide variety of opportunities facing you in the business world of concrete.

Me, I track every project in my arera, who is awarded and who is supplying/finishing,location,ect. This way when I see a producer loading up, I know they cannot handle but "X" concrete per day produced.

A normal dry batch plant, can produce 70 cyds an hour average.

Me, having three in the area I can go 210 + an hour, no problem, so you see, we have a distinct advantage in handling multiple,larger jobs.

Hope this helps

GT

[Kidlicious]

Black Friday (shopping)

Please stop making a fool of yourself.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Black Friday (shopping)

Please stop making a fool of yourself.

No offense - but I think that it's you that should stop making a fool of yourself

What you are talking about is peak sales period compared to the rest of the year.

Just out of curiosity - are you aware of the fact that the current chistmas sale are expected to beat earlier records ?

Please follow my advise in #69

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by BlackCat


No offense - but I think that it's you that should stop making a fool of yourself

What you are talking about is peak sales period compared to the rest of the year.

Just out of curiosity - are you aware of the fact that the current chistmas sale are expected to beat earlier records ?

Please follow my advise in #69

You didn't read it, but that shouldn't matter if you have half a brain. Why do you think they call it "Black" Friday moron.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Kidicious


You didn't read it, but that shouldn't matter if you have half a brain. Why do you think they call it "Black" Friday moron.

Sorry, I actually read it and I had a great deal of fun. Boutiques in red for 10 months and rescue all in two months

I know a couple of persons being owners of retails shops and while they consider december as the cream of the year, they certainly don't think it as the period where they earn what they are going to loose in the rest of the year - only stupid persons would build their business on such a principle.

If you are in doubt, just visit shops in your vicinity and ask if its their policy

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by BlackCat


Sorry, I actually read it and I had a great deal of fun. Boutiques in red for 10 months and rescue all in two months

I know a couple of persons being owners of retails shops and while they consider december as the cream of the year, they certainly don't think it as the period where they earn what they are going to loose in the rest of the year - only stupid persons would build their business on such a principle.

If you are in doubt, just visit shops in your vicinity and ask if its their policy

exactly bc

[Kidlicious]

You guys are just so ****ing stupid it's mind blowing.

[notyoueither]

Kiidie, you're giving the sack of hammers a good go.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Kiidie, you're giving the sack of hammers a good go.

You've got the intelligence of a rock in the freezer.

There are several reasons why a healthy company will be in the red. One, it's normal for start ups to be in the red for a number of years before they actually start making money. Second, as I mentioned a retail business might be in the red for a good part of the year and make up for it during the christmas season. Finally, this might be too much for your puny brain to handle, but just because a business is losing money during a recession doesn't mean that it is DYING! That's what cash reserves are for dip****!

[SpencerH]

My parents company went through a number of "races" with foolish competitors who tried to undercut prices and put them out of business. In every case, the undercutters went bankrupt. They stayed afloat during the tough times by providing quality and service to their customers.

Kid, no small business saves money for a "rainy day", the profit margins are usually too small and the best investment of any profit is back into the company not sitting in a bank earning 2% interest.

[Kidlicious]

I agree with that. I was assuming that this is a big corporation, since Grampa said that he is a manager.

I'm not trying to blame him for managing the company not in the best interest of his employees. I'm saying that his company has since I'm sure he doesn't make the strategic management decisions. The higher ups do.

[Velociryx]

One of the top ten most entertaining threads this year!

-=Vel=-

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I agree with that. I was assuming that this is a big corporation, since Grampa said that he is a manager.

I'm not trying to blame him for managing the company not in the best interest of his employees. I'm saying that his company has since I'm sure he doesn't make the strategic management decisions. The higher ups do.

So your saying if your small you dont have a wide profit margin?{I agree, btw}

But, if your a corporation, you have this BIG profit margin?

But, Kid, I do appreciate you views, just sharing, employees, be in front line or management, implement BMP'S from those steering the company.

If the employees dont do their job, then their wont be a corporation

GT

[Kidlicious]

Gramps,

You don't make the decisions regarding how much cash reserve your company will keep. You don't make the decisions on whether or not your company will prepare for a recession or exansion. Stop acting like you owe something to your employees and they owe something to you. You're acting like a complete ****ing tool.