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  • #31
    Florida had a high speed rail initiative. Instead of doing its job, the state refused to implement it, then five years later, said it was now going to cost fives times as much, held another election where it was defeated.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #32
      I wasn't trying to make any connection between the two.
      I've always thought that high speed rails between certain cities could be profitable in the long run but only the government could come up with the initial dollars and no one will have the balls to vote for something like that.

      Somehow I think the bailout isn't going to accomplish what it was originally intended to do.

      SO if we were going to just blow money, i'd prefer that we got something visible out of it. And the US needs more infrastructure funding in my opinion.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #33
        If we were just going to blow some money, infrastructure would be a poor place to do it. It takes too long.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #34
          We need our infrastructure rebuilt. We need jobs. It's win-win, except for you anti-government types. And what a great job privatization has one on the Indiana Toll Road.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #35
            Think critically, Comrade.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #36
              It's true. Building infrastructure does create jobs.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DanS
                If we were just going to blow some money, infrastructure would be a poor place to do it. It takes too long.
                It's thinking like that which has made our infrastructure so in need of renewal.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  If we were just going to blow some money, infrastructure would be a poor place to do it. It takes too long.
                  It might take a while but eventually it does pay for itself. Increased commerce and mobility does generate economic gains. Try getting bombs to pay for themselves, that's just money down the drain.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #39
                    CA High Speed Rail Authority

                    Ultimately, it will be a compromise between the Governor and the State Legislature. If the line is completed between San Jose and Los Angeles, a number of airlines will be hurting pretty badly. Southwest and United generate a lot of revenues from their SF Bay Area to LA Area flights. Obviously, I think the highest priority should be completing the line from San Jose to LA. However, I have a feeling the Sacramento to LA will get priority because it is cheaper (one less tunnel) and will probably have more political backing.
                    “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                    • #40
                      Infrastructure > fake bailout.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rah
                        It's thinking like that which has made our infrastructure so in need of renewal.
                        If you want to do a stimulus (blow some money), then infrastructure is the wrong way to do it. It takes years for planning and the money would end up being spent when times are good.

                        I think this is pretty basic economics that even the commies would agree with.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #42
                          It's better than just giving money to failing institutions so they don't fail (and thus can continue to enact their failure upon the rest of us).

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            If you want to do a stimulus (blow some money), then infrastructure is the wrong way to do it. It takes years for planning and the money would end up being spent when times are good.

                            I think this is pretty basic economics that even the commies would agree with.


                            You're assuming the crisis will be short.

                            Also, I would guess that there are a lot of recently canceled projects out there in need of funding, as well as plans for projects that are waiting for money.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #44
                              Yes, I do assume that the crisis will be short. Nothing happening now suggest that the crisis will be long.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #45
                                You are the eternal optimist.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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