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  • The least shocking news ever...

    I talked to Steve Biegun, the former Bush NSC aid who briefed Sarah Palin on foreign policy, and he considers the leaks against her on the international stuff "absurd."

    He says there's no way she didn't know Africa was a continent, and whoever is saying she didn't must be distorting "a fumble of words." He talked to her about all manner of issues relating to Africa, from failed states to the Sudan. She was aware from the beginning of the conflict in Darfur, which is followed closely in evangelical churches, and was aware of Clinton's AIDS initiative. That basically makes it impossible that she thought all of Africa was a country.

    On not knowing what countries are in NAFTA, Biegun was part of the conversation that led to that accusation and it convinces him "somebody is acting with a high degree of maliciousness." He was briefing Palin before a Univision interview, and talking to her about trade issues. He rolled through NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Colombia FTA. As he talked, people were coming in and out of the room, handing Palin things, etc. She was distracted from what Biegun was saying, and said, roughly, "Ok, who's in NAFTA, what's the deal with CAFTA, what's up the FTA?"—her way, Biegun says, of saying "rack them and stack them," begin again from the start. "Somebody is taking a conversation and twisting it maliciously," he says.

    In general, according to Beigun, Palin had a steep learning curve on foreign issues, about what you would expect from a governor. But she has "great instincts and great core values," and is "an instinctive internationalist." The stories against her are being "fed by an unnamed source who is allowed by the press to make ad hominem attacks on background." Biegun, who spent dozens and dozens of hours briefing Palin on these issues, is happy to defend her, on the record, under his own name.

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    • She was distracted from what Biegun was saying, and said, roughly, "Ok, who's in NAFTA, what's the deal with CAFTA, what's up the FTA?


      Errr....how does this contradict what was said?

      SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS IN NAFTA

      Not knowing who was in CAFTA is a separate issue, and is not particularly surprising. It's only been around for a few years and is with far less important trade partners than NAFTA is.
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      • Posted in the other thread, here it is again:

        So, no, I think that if there are allegations based on questions or comments that I made in debate prep about Nafta, and about the continent versus the country when we talk about Africa there, then those were taken out of context, and that’s cruel and it’s mean-spirited, it’s immature, it’s unprofessional, and those guys are jerks, if they came away with it taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It is not fair and not right.


        Sarah Palin, on Friday.

        She revealed herself as a **** in public, and her private conversations simply confirm it.
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        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
          She was distracted from what Biegun was saying, and said, roughly, "Ok, who's in NAFTA, what's the deal with CAFTA, what's up the FTA?


          Errr....how does this contradict what was said?

          SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS IN NAFTA
          Bull****.
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          • Then why would she say "who's in NAFTA"?

            Even according to the most charitable interpretation of the words one of her supporters is attributing to her we are left with the conclusion that she didn't know for sure. Could she have given the right answer if she'd been forced to? Maybe. But that's strongly indicative of the level of knowledge she had.
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              • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                Then why would she say "who's in NAFTA"?

                Even according to the most charitable interpretation of the words one of her supporters is attributing to her we are left with the conclusion that she didn't know for sure. Could she have given the right answer if she'd been forced to? Maybe. But that's strongly indicative of the level of knowledge she had.
                I think the guy who briefed her said that was her way of telling him to start over and recap.

                Who should I believe? Some nameless source or someone willing to put his name on the line?
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                • Even if we accept the charitable interpretation of these words offered by his supporters, we are still left with the conclusion that Barack Obama might not know that there are 50 states in the U.S. Could he give the right answer if forced to? Maybe. But this is strongly indicative of the level of knowledge he has.

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                  • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                    I hate Sarah Palin so I'm going to believe everything negative that anyone says about Palin.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • KH pwned by MrFun!

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                      • Originally posted by notyoueither


                        I think the guy who briefed her said that was her way of telling him to start over and recap.
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                        • Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut


                          KH pwned by MrFun!
                          I'll take my judgment over MrFun's any day of the week. He tries so hard to play mediator that he ends up not saying anything.
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                          • Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
                            Even if we accept the charitable interpretation of these words offered by his supporters, we are still left with the conclusion that Barack Obama might not know that there are 50 states in the U.S.
                            Fail.
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                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                              I think it's a reasonable assumption since even if we assume she did not know before hand, she had just sat through a session that informed her.
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                              • I'm starting to feel empathy for Palin (damn you!), and disgusted with those who think this is really news. Let it go already. Palin clearly was in over her head, and that was obvious enough from how she carried herself in public appearances. I don't think that makes her an idiot, just out of place. Accusations like these are just ridiculous. People can say anything about anyone...

                                If you've got it on tape, sure. Run with it. Make funny videos. Whatever. Otherwise it's just unnamed sources who have an obvious vested interest to make her look bad (to cast the blame away from themselves), and media who've (reaffirmed countless times) lost all sense of what real news is. We hear more about this type of stupid ****, from both sides, than about any real issues. Which ironically enough is a large part of why someone like Palin even had a shot at being VP...

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