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  • #16
    I'll wait and see. However it doesn't really matter what the conservates say, Obama has at least 2 years. If Pelosi can teach him to heel, well that would be bad.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by KrazyHorse
      Other than 2 Roosevelts, you mean?
      OK I told you I might be wrong but I am still pretty close.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Deity Dude


        OK I told you I might be wrong but I am still pretty close.
        Eisenhower, Van Buren. Buchanan is Scottish.

        ACK!
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lancer If Pelosi can teach him to heel, well that would be bad.
          That's the part of all this I'm worried about. Pelosi weilding her power without threat of a veto.
          "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved - loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves."--Victor Hugo

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          • #20
            Actually the surnames on Obama's mother's side sound English (Dunham and Payne). So I guess it's the same old thing all over again. Another Englishman is President.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Swissy


              That's the part of all this I'm worried about. Pelosi weilding her power without threat of a veto.

              Yeah - we certainly do not want a government that can finally get **** done, do we?
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tuberski


                Eisenhower.

                ACK!
                Damnit. Knew I was forgetting one.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MrFun
                  Yeah - we certainly do not want a government that can finally get **** done, do we?
                  I'm sure you really liked it when we had a government that got **** done from 2001-2007, eh?
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Let me rephrase - getting stuff done for the better, not for ill.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                      Damnit. Knew I was forgetting one.
                      He's half German half English

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Swissy


                        That's the part of all this I'm worried about. Pelosi weilding her power without threat of a veto.
                        If that happens remember when the repugs gained all those seats in...erm...'92? That would happen again I'm sure.

                        Can it go on forever before everyone just gives up on government and stops voting? Someone has to deliver results if this country is to continue as it is.
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                        • #27
                          Sloww, you are a classier guy then I give you credit for. Even if you're from Texas.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Deity Dude


                            He's half German half English
                            So now your claim is that most of the presidents have at least SOME Irish or English blood in them?

                            Way to describe 90% of the non-immigrant non-Hispanic white population of the US.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #29
                              Dutch, English and Scottish 1/2 Money, 1/4 Power, 1/4 Freedom

                              Now you know what mix I am.

                              What is Obama's mothers heritage?
                              be free

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                              • #30
                                Good on you, Sloww.
                                Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                                RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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