The Last Election Thread

[KrazyHorse]

Barely. I was 8.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
I'm still trying to figure out how McCain is going to veto every bill with an earmark in it. This bill is called the federal budget.

Is he just going to close down the federal government and go home in a huff?? How's he going to support our troops in Iraq if he can't pay them or supply them with food, ammunition and equipment?

Do you really think more than a majority of Congress would respond to that veto by clinging to their pork to the point of stalling the government? As sick as I am of hearing the words "you will know their names, my friends," that's very much the point: it would put them in the tough position of having to come out for or against the earmarked or non-earmarked draft on the record. Some are still in fairly close districts and states, mind you.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Barely. I was 8.

Not good enough. That's how old Obama was when he was conspiring with Ayres to bomb the Pentagon.

[SlowwHand]

I'll keep my guns, my money, and Obama can keep The Change.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I'll keep my guns, my money,

Er... do you make over $250,000 a year, Sloww? If so, good on ya!

And Obama doesn't want to take away your guns...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Er... do you make over $250,000 a year, Sloww? If so, good on ya!

And Obama doesn't want to take away your guns...

Dude, you're talking to Sloww. Reason, facts, etc. need not apply.

[Jon Miller]

Yeah, the people who favor McCain due to tax reasons all make far less than 200k (that I know).

They are either illinformed, or very ideological.

JM

[Boris Godunov]

Or racists. Don't forget racists.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
In fact, I think I may have convinced a Virginian to vote for Obama, so my opinions have had much more of an expected impact on the Presidential election than yours have, Sloww.

Someone on Poly?

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
Yeah, the people who favor McCain due to tax reasons all make far less than 200k (that I know).

They are either illinformed, or very ideological.

Or maybe some/many/most just look at a voting record from past years and inconsistent statements from past weeks (first $250K, then $200K, then $150K, and even a quick $120K from Richardson, then reassurances of $250K again), and then conclude based on these that a promise and the future are two very different things?

Sure some don't know or care to know Obama's stated policy, but others do know it and just choose not to believe that he'll follow through.

Not my personal belief, but understandable.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by Guynemer



Er... do you make over $250,000 a year, Sloww? If so, good on ya!

And Obama doesn't want to take away your guns...

That $250,000 keeps changing. He himself said $200,000 recently. Then after that, Biden said $150,000. Now Richardson (one of his advisors) said $120,000. I think that is part of the fear. That by the time he, a philabuster-proof Senate and an overwhelmingly Democratic house get down to really making the Tax Rates it will be significantly less than $250,000 and probably less than $120,000.

Time will tell (assuming he wins)

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Darius871


Or maybe some/many/most just look at a voting record from past years and inconsistent statements from past weeks (first $250K, then $200K, then $150K, and even a quick $120K from Richardson, then reassurances of $250K again), and then conclude based on these that a promise and the future are two very different things?

150k was an example used by Biden to show how much of a tax break somebody in that range would get. 200k is individual. 250k is family. Not that confusing, except if somebody tries to make it so.

Note that I don't believe that stated tax policies will have anything to do with what actually happens.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Deity Dude


That $250,000 keeps changing. He himself said $200,000 recently. Then after that, Biden said $150,000. Now Richardson (one of his advisors) said $120,000. I think that is part of the fear. That by the time he, a philabuster-proof Senate and an overwhelmingly Democratic house get down to really making the Tax Rates it will be significantly less than $250,000 and probably less than $120,000.

Time will tell (assuming he wins)

Jesus Christ. See my post above.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


150k was an example used by Biden to show how much of a tax break somebody in that range would get. 200k is individual. 250k is family. Not that confusing, except if somebody tries to make it so.

Note that I don't believe that stated tax policies will have anything to do with what actually happens.

Note that I wasn't arguing for or against the point. I just find it silly to assume supporters of McCain on the tax issue simply don't know or care what Obama has said about it. A promise is just that.

Personally I think they'll stick to the promise; if not for integrity, then at least to make sure they don't get ass-reamed in 2010-2016 for a lie without which Obama might not have won. Hopefully they're smart enough to realize by now that the only way you can beat the GOP on the tax issue is by taxing someone other than your own base.

[Deity Dude]

Jesus Christ! See my post above.

First of all - my name isn't Jesus Christ although I suppose one could consider Jesus Christ a Deity Dude.

Second I posted before you and during Darius's post so I was unable to read them before I posted.

Finally I stand by my post. Which you sort of agreed with. My point was the number keeps changing or is getting "confusing" and that people fear the final product will be different than the $250k number. You yourself said you thought that final product would be different than the promise.