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  • #31
    Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
    that's what Dr. House should learn to accept as well
    You are ignoring that this is poly, my postion is counter to the flow here, so my internet persona is perfectly coherent. Haven't you seen this thread, no one agrees with me, its an awesome feeling!
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    • #32
      we are missing eastern European nationalists here since Serb left too keep the balance
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
        The whole blaming of "deregulation" is moronic.

        There were three main causes,...

        3. A lack of sensible regulation
        Pardon my ignorance, but I always thought 'deregulation', when it goes too far, results in a 'lack of sensible regulation'.

        If you don't feel any of the acts of deregulation between 1980 and 2001 didn't contribute to the lack of oversight of the CDS's please let us know.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
          we are missing eastern European nationalists here since Serb left too keep the balance
          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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          • #35
            I also blame commies for not gloating more, and the PETA fans for not showing up for ridicule.
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #36
              If you don't feel any of the acts of deregulation between 1980 and 2001 didn't contribute to the lack of oversight of the CDS's please let us know.
              Credit default swaps were never regulated to begin with. You can't deregulate something that was never regulated.
              Last edited by Naked Gents Rut; October 24, 2008, 19:06.

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              • #37


                Also Ron Paul fans have been quiet.
                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                • #38


                  Ze stock market is down now as well, so I guess communism will become popular again...
                  Last edited by Heraclitus; October 24, 2008, 19:11.
                  Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                  The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #39
                    I would happily accept some blame, if I thought the US caused the financial crisis. And I am open to be convinced that we are to blame.

                    But what I don't understand is why all of these European banks required very huge bailouts -- often 20 - 30% of GDP. Believe me, they did not gorge themselves on US real estate mortgages to this degree. Rather, it seems likely that these banks needed help mostly because of domestic economic considerations.

                    Consider that US real estate is not nearly as highly leveraged as in many European countries. To me, this looks most likely to be a worldwide deleveraging phenomenon. The attributes of this in the US are CDO, subprime, CDS, etc. In other countries, the attributes will be different. Japan is a special case, because it delevered in the 90s and 00s.
                    Last edited by DanS; October 24, 2008, 19:15.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Heraclitus
                      I also blame commies for not gloating more, and the PETA fans for not showing up for ridicule.
                      Why would we be gloating when the govt is giving away billions of dollars to our enemies?
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                      • #41
                        Re: Re: Re: Who else resents USAians for causing this finanical crisis?

                        Originally posted by Heraclitus


                        Oh, please.... you know full well that for all intents and purposes Western Europe has been part of the American empire since WW2 (with the possible exception of France and perhaps Germany after it became unified).


                        It doesn't matter who we elect he will always follow the US's lead, this is especially true of Ex-commie states.
                        Again, why are you blaming the US? We didn't invade you. Well... we left already.
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                        • #42
                          Who's mad? I don't see why it's a bad thing that the worthless mortgage papers are getting burned away like so much chaff.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Re: Who else resents USAians for causing this finanical crisis?

                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            This problem was partially caused by government regulation in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act.
                            You, sir, are an idiot. If by partially you mean extraordinarily minor then yes but other wise no.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut


                              Credit default swaps were never regulated to begin with. You can't deregulate something that was never regulated.
                              Exactly.
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                              • #45
                                Agreed but they should have been regulated. Thank Phil Gram for that one.

                                It acts like insurance in every way but we don't want it to be regulated like insurance. There is a reason why insurance companies have to have capital reserves to pay potential claims and it isn't because everyone hates insurance companies making profits.
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