Obama and Israel

[Darius871]

Don't get your hopes up. No U.S. national politician, especially one as savvy as Obama, is stupid enough to piss off the j00s. At best you lose Florida's electoral college votes, or at worst "they" whip a magic bullet at your ass. Just ask JFK.

[Aeson]

Unbelievable!

[Slaughtermeyer]

Originally posted by Darius871
Also, I'd suppose Obama's own words below carry a little more weight than a Haaretz op-ed. If somebody gave me the raw text and told me it was a speech by Bush, I'd certainly fall for it.

Reminds me of an editorial submitted to and published by Maariv which many Zionist Israelis assumed was written by one of their own. It was sub-titled "A brave and moving response to the refusenik pilots. A must read..."

A few days ago, when Maariv was engaged in ferocious witch-hunt of the Air Force pilots refusing to fly assassination missions, a long article appeared in one of the newspaper supplements.

Ostensibly condemning the pilots, an unknown patriot wrote:

“Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence of our people, the sustenance of our children and the freedom and independence of our country, so that our people may fulfil the mission allotted it by the Creator.

"The war against our enemies cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of different attitudes to life, and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. It must be thoroughly understood that the land will never be won by solemn appeals to God, nor by hopes in any United Nations, but only by the force of arms.

"A single blow must destroy the enemy, without regard of losses. A gigantic all-destroying blow. Our message does not have multiple shadings; it has a positive and a negative; love or hate, right or wrong, truth or lie, never half this way and half that way. Lord God, let us never hesitate or play the coward. If we are forced to send the flower of the nation into the hell of war without the smallest fear, then surely we have the right to remove millions of another race that breeds like vermin. For we are fighting not for ourselves but for the whole world.”

The article attracted very little attention, for it was an exact match to the rest of the write-up produced by Messrs Dankner and Barnea. Only a few days later, a sharp-eyed retiree paid notice to the by-line: the article in question was signed A. Schickelgruber, a real-life name of Adolf Hitler, and every single sentence was taken from Hitler’s speeches and books.

This new posthumous career of the Nazi leader as a Zionist columnist served a sterling proof of advanced Nazification of Israeli society. The Zionist sympathisers affect their indignation whenever their black deeds are compared with those of Nazis, but publication of Hitler’s article and following lack of response by the Israeli public staged a convincing experiment: the Israeli discourse fully inverted and appropriated the Nazi propaganda. This discovery could act as sobering cold shower to the hot heads of Zionist fanatics, but it did not. Instead of tearing their tailor-made dress shirts and pouring ashes on their balding heads, Dankner and his henchman Barnea fired the brave journalist Yehuda Nuriel who composed the article in question and brought the mirror up to the ugly face of Israel.

http://www.israelshamir.net/English/his_new_career.htm

http://oznik.com/words/031017.html

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Slaughtermeyer
Reminds me of an editorial submitted to and published by Maariv which many Zionist Israelis assumed was written by one of their own. It was sub-titled "A brave and moving response to the refusenik pilots. A must read..."

That's sort of the idea.

[Darius871]

Seriously though, don't you think they had something to do with JFK? I heard Ben Gurion had some nasty things to say about the guy...

[Slaughtermeyer]

LBJ's mistress has implicated LBJ and I don't see any cause to doubt her story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

[chequita guevara]

It's ****ing annoying dealing with the antiSemites who see Rahm Emmanuel as proof that the Zionists control the American government. I ****in' hate these nutjobs, especially with the all caps.

OUR NEW PRESIDENT FIRST PICK IS JEWISH ZIONIST PLEASE LEARN WHO IS IN HIS CIRCLE VERY IMPORTANT THAT U DO.

Why do these ****s seek me out?

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Slaughtermeyer
LBJ's mistress has implicated LBJ and I don't see any cause to doubt her story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

Sure, but obviously LBJ was just "their" puppet...

[Slaughtermeyer]

Originally posted by Darius871
Don't get your hopes up. No U.S. national politician, especially one as savvy as Obama, is stupid enough to piss off the j00s. At best you lose Florida's electoral college votes, or at worst "they" whip a magic bullet at your ass. Just ask JFK.

If any president "deserved" to get a magic bullet for pissing them off I'd say it was Eisenhower. He pressured Israel to withdraw from the Sinai in 1956 without giving Israel any money whatsoever.

http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=103&aid=147&pg=4

[Darius871]

That's just what they want you to think!

[Slaughtermeyer]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
The line of reasoning in this article has got completely and utterly nothing to do with your point about an Israeli anti-us conspiracy, wacko.

The only thing it shows is that you jack off to anything that is anti-US-Israeli relationship, no matter what the source, reasoning or facts in it.

I'm not particularly good at name-calling, so I'll ask fellow truther Kadafi Kanati to respond instead. Take a look at Kanati's post #7 in the following thread. I'm Jonathan Pollard in that thread.

http://www.topix.net/forum/afam/TG80MUH0SFV1SMLGP

(I realize it's highly unlikely you will appreciate my attempt at humor but perhaps there are others on this forum that will).

[Sirotnikov]

Why do you have such a zionist nickname, Slaughtermeier??!! HUH?!?!

[Darius871]

Clearly he's just a brilliant zionist plant with the sole purpose of discrediting the truther movement by purporting to represent it with absurd extremes and faulty reasoning. This "muddy the waters" technique is as old as the conspiracy itself, and it works.

[Sirotnikov]

I think you should pick your enemies one at a time, Mr. Slaughter. You can't possibly begin to fight all conspiracies.

Choose one and stick to it.

I mean, even if you believe all that stuff - what is it that bothers you most? You lack any kind of coherence or focus. You seem to be just copy pasting what ever thing you think might upset people most, even if it is totally unrelated stories.

How do the Israeli pilots in Gaza relate to 9/11? How does that relate to JFK? Did the same men also kill Robert Maxwell? And where is Carmen San Diego? Where did she disappear?


By all means, you can be as loony as you want, but for christ's sake, be organized. You seem to be overstretching, and totally incoherent, and that makes you hard to follow.


I also don't get what is your point when you publish bits from the public open debate in Israel for and against the occupation, and the settlements policy?

That is illogical.

How does the Haaretz article, criticizing the occupation somehow contribute to your view of a secretive single-minded zionist government in Israel?

Sincerely yours,
conniving zionist.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Slaughtermeyer
Obama also told AIPAC that he was in favor of an undivided Jerusalem, a statement that he retracted shortly thereafter. Therefore, it's quite possible that everything he told AIPAC is subject to retraction or "clarification" at some point in the future.

Ah he retracted that statement after all? I was really surprised to hear him say that. I mean it's more extreme than Bush's views for cryin out loud!