Race may account for 6 pts. in election

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
Lancer's statistics are made up, JM. Black people vote Democrat about 80% and GOP about 20%. For this election, the numbers are 90%/10% in favor of Obama, so the effect isn't anywhere near as big as dumbasses would have it.

So, 10% of blacks are changing their vote for racial reasons. The thread speculated that 6% weren't going to vote Obama for racial reasons. Which race is more racist?

Personally I like Obama. Were it not for the abortion issue I would be crossing party lines to vote for him. I couldn't give a crap about race.

However I know the dems and when the recriminations start they'll start blaming race. Look at the premise of this thread, they already have started.

[chequita guevara]

Yes, but those ten percent are REPUBLICANS! And the 6% turning away from Obama are the most ring-wing Democrats. In other words, it's right wingers that are racist.

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Originally posted by Guynemer

Who really thinks that Obama will lose more votes than he gets due to his race? I see it as a huge bonus for him. Maybe even enough make up for the mothers the left have alienated.

Really?


You're serious?


There is no way you are serious about this.

This was pretty much the consensus until it appeared that Obama could actually WIN the democratic nomination, then the partisan hacks realized the talking point of racism hurting Obama could make a great way to gather sympathy votes for general election.

No really, did you pay attention to the debates and media coverage of the Democratic primary? There weren't any issue dilemmas or candidates making a stand on hard choices presented, the only difference was that the other was a woman and the other was a black person. If you wanted to prove that you are a true enlightened "progressive" anti-racist, you voted for the black person.

I agree that racial discrimination is making a significant mark on this campaign. I disagree that it is hurting Obama. Whites who want to prove themselves they aren't racist are attracted to voting a black guy just because he doesn't fit in to the stereotype of a black man as a stupid monkey, see an article (made during the primary season, when liberals were arguing amongst themselves) about the magic negro effect on Los Angeles Times.

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Originally posted by Lancer


It's pretty hateful stuff. Unless you're one of the haters yourself you get turned off. This will cause the dems to lose another election as the rest of us let out a collective "YUCK", and vote for McCain/Palin.

I personally am deciding based on what the candidates have said, not what FOX News or CNN or other media outlets have to say. For chrissakes, just listen to Hannity and Limbaugh.

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Originally posted by Verto
I personally am deciding based on what the candidates have said

This is the correct approach to an educated voting public. Pay close attention to what the candidates are actually saying and doing (have done!), **** the spinmeisters who are manufacturing "scandals" in the press.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Listening to what the candidates say is pointless because they lie all the time about what they plan to do in order to win votes. Looking at what they've done is the only way to get a feel for how they'll really govern. This is difficult in Obama's case, however, as he hasn't really done much in his time in politics.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
Yes, but those ten percent are REPUBLICANS! And the 6% turning away from Obama are the most ring-wing Democrats. In other words, it's right wingers that are racist.

[Whoha]

will those 6 points be canceled out due to Misogyny?

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Lancer
So, 10% of blacks are changing their vote for racial reasons. The thread speculated that 6% weren't going to vote Obama for racial reasons. Which race is more racist?

Personally I like Obama. Were it not for the abortion issue I would be crossing party lines to vote for him. I couldn't give a crap about race.

However I know the dems and when the recriminations start they'll start blaming race. Look at the premise of this thread, they already have started.

A lot of whites will vote against Obama simply because he's black.
A lot of blacks will vote for him for the same reason.
We will never konw the exact (or even approximate) number of each.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
Yes, but those ten percent are REPUBLICANS! And the 6% turning away from Obama are the most ring-wing Democrats. In other words, it's right wingers that are racist.

Additionally, how many blacks are in this country? How many whites?

JM

[Naked Gents Rut]

More additionally, how many of the black people in America are likely voters? How many whites?

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Well, it's clear that Obama, being a half-black man, isn't enough like the average white person.

He's not just like them. Palin and McCain, being all-white, on the other hand, are.

Has nothing to do with race. It's more that Obama's just uppit an elitist, and can't connect to the regular voters. And he's no maverick.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Has nothing to do with race. It's more that Obama's just an elitist, and can't connect to the regular voters. And he's no maverick.

Exactly.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
.... And he's no maverick.

What does his early opposition to the War in Iraq make him, and his opposition to the Clinton coronation?

[Naked Gents Rut]

What does his early opposition to the War in Iraq make him, and his opposition to the Clinton coronation?

A very lucky left-wing politician?