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Nanos has had the Liberals at 30 since the end of September. It's the worst of the polls, consistently inflates the Liberals compared to everyone else."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Yeah, I knew you wouldn't like it.
I have no intention of arguing poll numbers (distorted national ones at that) but Nanos has been the most accurate in the past. Are they again?"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Originally posted by Wezil
Yeah, I knew you wouldn't like it.
I have no intention of arguing poll numbers (distorted national ones at that) but Nanos has been the most accurate in the past. Are they again?
This could be one weird election-- Cons should take Alberta and will almost certainly lose 2 and maybe 3 of their three seats in Newfoundland.
Ontario and Quebec were seeming like huge battlegrounds but with the NDP growing in strength and the Greens indeed "horning in" you could have very many three and 4 way splits. In theory that should favor the Conservtives but really in practice who the heck knows??
In the last elections we did see NDP voters defect to the Liberals but I would think there should be less of that this time given what an unattractive option Dion is this time. If Layton can hold his support you should see decent NDP gains. (they may win a Newfoundland seat as they are running a very strong candidate)
I don't know if the Greens have any hopeful seats ? Is Elizabeth May seen as having a good chance to unseat Mackay? My impression is that Green support is somewhat uniform nationally so that they could pick up even 15% of the vote and still conceivably take 0 seats.
Right now I am confident of exactly nothing. My only wishes are
1. Whatever happens, the Green Shift is never implemented
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2. That there were some way I could have a vote for the national party and a separate one for the local candidate-- I hate it when a local candidate for a preferred party really really sucksLast edited by Flubber; October 6, 2008, 13:10.You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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My riding is getting interesting. Apparently somebody (presumably NDP, given the comments) is vandalizing people's homes/cars who have Liberal signs on their lawn, including cutting their car breaks.
I always found it very stupid to put political signs on your lawn. It just asks for trouble."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Flubber
2. That there were some way I could have a vote for the national party and a separate one for the local candidate-- I hate it when a local candidate for a preferred really really sucks"The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
"you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
"I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident
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Originally posted by Kontiki
Meh, just vote for your preferred local candidate. I did that last time and may do it again this time. For me, that happens to be NDP (Olivia Chow). I'd never EVER want the NDP to form the government, but I like having some of them in parliament.You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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Originally posted by Flubber
If it is that close now, it should be very tight. Is Harper's debate performance hurting him? Or is it the concentrated attack and coverage of four parties all taking aim at him?
This could be one weird election-- Cons should take Alberta and will almost certainly lose 2 and maybe 3 of their three seats in Newfoundland.
Conservatives being completely shut out of Nfld (and PEI) is in the works.
Ontario and Quebec were seeming like huge battlegrounds but with the NDP growing in strength and the Greens indeed "horning in" you could have very many three and 4 way splits. In theory that should favor the Conservtives but really in practice who the heck knows??
Agreed. It will be interesting. The major urban ridings are not in play (again) so the fight once again centres on the 905 and southwestern ON. The effect of the splits just can't be predicted.
In the last elections we did see NDP voters defect to the Liberals but I would think there should be less of that this time given what an unattractive option Dion is this time. If Layton can hold his support you should see decent NDP gains. (they may win a Newfoundland seat as they are running a very strong candidate)
The NDP fears the same thing happening again. This time however they can argue the Libs record (supporting the Con government vote after vote) as a good reason to vote NDP and not Lib.
I don't know if the Greens have any hopeful seats ? Is Elizabeth May seen as having a good chance to unseat Mackay? My impression is that Green support is somewhat uniform nationally so that they could pick up even 15% of the vote and still conceivably take 0 seats.
I suspect MacKay's riding is the only one that might happen for the Greens. The fact MacKay has been staying close to home and not campaigning for the party in other ridings seems to indicate there is some concern there. He is a Cabinet mnister after all...
Right now I am confident of exactly nothing. My only wishes are
1. Whatever happens, the Green Shift is never implemented
and
2. That there were some way I could have a vote for the national party and a separate one for the local candidate-- I hate it when a local candidate for a preferred party really really sucks"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Originally posted by Asher
My riding is getting interesting. Apparently somebody (presumably NDP, given the comments) is vandalizing people's homes/cars who have Liberal signs on their lawn, including cutting their car breaks.
I always found it very stupid to put political signs on your lawn. It just asks for trouble.
Cutting car brakes is INSANE-- I doubt when they find who did this they will have anything other than the most tenuous links to any party .You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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Originally posted by Wezil
Conservatives being completely shut out of Nfld (and PEI) is in the works.
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Originally posted by Wezil
Agreed. It will be interesting. The major urban ridings are not in play (again) so the fight once again centres on the 905 and southwestern ON. The effect of the splits just can't be predicted.
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Originally posted by Wezil
The NDP fears the same thing happening again. This time however they can argue the Libs record (supporting the Con government vote after vote) as a good reason to vote NDP and not Lib.
Originally posted by Wezil
I suspect MacKay's riding is the only one that might happen for the Greens. The fact MacKay has been staying close to home and not campaigning for the party in other ridings seems to indicate there is some concern there. He is a Cabinet mnister after all...
.You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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Yes, I meant "in play" wrt the Conservatives. The Libs and NDP are battling for them. eg. There are 4 London ridings and the Cons realistically only have a shot at 1 of them. The riding they are hoping for is predominently rural. The Cons did reasonably well outside the cities last time out and were hoping to pick up a few in the cities this time out. I'm not in their warroom but my guess is the party is back to fighting to hang on to what they have in this province."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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The Liberals are thrown into chaos by smelly dirty laundry courtesy of Paul Martin's leaked memoirs: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../BNStory/Front"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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A week before the vote and the Conservatives finally get around to releasing their platform. Just more of the Harper openness I've come to love."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Originally posted by Asher
The Liberals are thrown into chaos by smelly dirty laundry courtesy of Paul Martin's leaked memoirs: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../BNStory/Front
Say it isn't so."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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