What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

[Lancer]

Re: Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by Saras


PLC was formed in 1569, G-V and Black Sea was owned by Grand Duchy of Lithuania alone

Another inhabitants of modern Ukraine were Cossacks: more or less Slavic people who fled feudal oppression of Polish, Tatar and Muscovite states and lived in anarcho-syndicalist communes.

like this one?

"The Lady of the Lake, clad in the purist shimmering Samite..."

I've wondered since I was young when this came out, what is Samite? Does it actually exist?

[Riesstiu IV]

Re: Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by Lonestar



You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't take back the Crimea.

Seriously, annexing large swaths of Eastern Europe is pretty much a pastime.

[snoopy369]

Re: Re: Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by Lancer


"The Lady of the Lake, clad in the purist shimmering Samite..."

I've wondered since I was young when this came out, what is Samite? Does it actually exist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samite

Yes.

[Lancer]

Thanks Snoopy. I guess I could have done that.

[Lancer]

Re: Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by Lonestar



You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't take back the Crimea.

We might have the assets here to determine if the Russians have hairy asses. Asher? MrFun? Comrad Snuggles? What say you?

[Starchild]

Re: Re: Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by Lancer


We might have the assets here to determine if the Russians have hairy asses. Asher? MrFun? Comrad Snuggles? What say you?

They do.

[Lancer]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by Starchild


They do.

So, a very real threat to the Crimea, very revealing. Thanks Starchild.

[Ben Kenobi]

Where have I said they had been a part of the Russian Empire? Also, why Hungary, why not Poland or Ukraine?

They've never been a part of Ukraine. They have always been a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire prior to the first world war, and even afterwards, they were a part of Czechoslovakia.

Historically, they have been considered part of the kingdom of Hungary like most of the Pannionian plain.

They have more in common with Poland, but they've never been under Polish control.

Rusyn is a Slavic language, they are Uniates like the Western Ukrainians, and so on...

No, they are Roman Catholics just like the Hungarians. The Western Ukrainians are uniate, but they are all on the Northeastern side of the Carpathians.

[Serb]

Re: What is Ukraine and where it comes from.

Originally posted by onodera
So, back to the story. About ten years after the war Khrushchev made a symbolic gift from the RSFSR to the UkSSR. Crimea. This didn't mean much from the practical viewpoint: both republics were parts of the USSR. This meant a lot after the union fell apart.

Just my two cents.
Khrushchev was an ethnic Ukranian. That happened in 1954. He gave Crimea to the Ukranian SSR to celebrate the 300th anniversary of the unification of Ukraine with Russia (1654, Bogdan Khmelnitsky).

[chequita guevara]

Djugashveli was an ethnic Georgian. What does that mean?

[Serb]

He spoke about himself as "a Russian of Asian origin".

[Heresson]

Good. that means I can blame Russia for him

[Pekka]

So wait. Who has pure race and who is mixed race? So who is our enemy again? I'm confused. Is Ukraine dirty or not? JUst a simple yes or no would be helpful.

[Dr Strangelove]

How similar are Ukrainian and Russian. Are they close enought that Russians and Ukrainians have little difficulty understanding each other or are they distinct languages like Portugese and Spanish?

[Heresson]

I believe they have little difficulty understanding each other, but that doesn't mean they aren't separate languages. As a Pole, I can understand 95% of Slovakian, 85% of Czech, 75% of belarusian, 66% of Ukrainian etc... Slavic languages aren't all that different.